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re: Which SEC West program is going to fall to mediocrity by 2020: LSU, Bama, or AU?

Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:35 pm to
Posted by flyAU
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

We won the SEC with Mike Dubose


We won a NC with Chizik
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:37 pm to
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Alabama will always be great in football. We won the SEC with Mike Dubose.



Let's not surgarcoat the Dubose, Franchione, Price, Shula years. Alabama was one of the worst programs in the SEC for close to a decade. A couple good years sprinkled amid bottomfeeder status is not great. Look at our recruiting back then. Our talent level was probably 7th or 8th best in the SEC. Major recruits were not even considering us. Our most prized recruit one year was a 5.7 3 star from Mississippi who we declared the savior of the program because we stole him from the Mississippi schools. Fans were shouting "Jimmy Johns" from the stands demanding Shula play him more. How freaking embarrassing is that? We were awful.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 5:40 pm
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:40 pm to
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We won a NC with Chizik


And one of the greatest sports players of all time.
Posted by LarrytheGolfer
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:41 pm to
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Let's not surgarcoat the Dubose, Franchione, Price, Shula years. Alabama was one of the worst programs in the SEC for close to a decade. A couple good years sprinkled amid bottomfeeder status is not great. Look at our recruiting back then. Our talent level was probably 7th or 8th best in the SEC. Major recruits were not even considering us. Our most prized recruit one year was a 5.7 3 star from Mississippi who we declared the savior of the program because we stole him from the Mississippi schools. Fans were shouting "Jimmy Johns" from the stands demanding Shula play him more. How freaking embarrassing is that? We were awful.


A lot of that had to do with the violations and penalities.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:41 pm to
It's experiencing the bad years that make the good years so great.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 5:43 pm to
One of those teams has already fallen to mediocrity.
Posted by blackmamba
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
765 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:09 pm to
So one the three is going to fall because of a&m? You're drunk bro...
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:17 pm to
Answer: Whoever has the best coach. Auburn proved that they can compete with anyone with good coaching. Bama has proven what poor coaching can do to a program. LSU has the most narrow window of success/failure of all the programs. With Les the most they will lose is 4 games in a year, but they have a hard time with 13-14 wins. A&M will have TX nipping at their heels within the next 5 years. So whoever is leading these programs will determine who the top 3 will be.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:25 pm to
SEC West football is an arms race to see who can keep up. I get nervous every year when I see tons of juniors leaving early. Has got to affect LSU long term.
Posted by BradPitt
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:28 pm to
It'll be Alabama. Without Saban keeping the head to head recruiting at 50/50 and stealing AU's media thunder, Auburn would be running circles around them at the moment.

When Saban leaves, no question Auburn will rule the state.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:40 pm to
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It'll be Alabama. Without Saban keeping the head to head recruiting at 50/50 and stealing AU's media thunder, Auburn would be running circles around them at the moment.

When Saban leaves, no question Auburn will rule the state.


If they pick Smart, I agree with you. If they snub him for a big time coach, it will be interesting to see. I think this year will play a key as to Smart's chances of taking over for Saban.
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:41 pm to
I respect your troll
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38278 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:50 pm to
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Well LSU has already shown they can maintain success while dealing with a coaching change. Auburn hasn't shown consistency


Yeah, because winning SEC Championships under 3 different coaches in the last 10 years and going to BCS Championships under 2 different coaches in the last 4 years indicates that an overall program has no staying power.

At all.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
125127 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 6:55 pm to
Times Auburn has had back to back ten win seasons since 1960?

Once.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 6:56 pm
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:08 pm to
Just wanted to point out that Alabama got Beaumont tx native and number 1 defensive recruit in Texas.

The dude will be in the Olympics too.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:08 pm to
LSU's already halfway there, so....
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:31 pm to
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Let's not surgarcoat the Dubose, Franchione, Price, Shula years. Alabama was one of the worst programs in the SEC for close to a decade. A couple good years sprinkled amid bottomfeeder status is not great. Look at our recruiting back then. Our talent level was probably 7th or 8th best in the SEC. Major recruits were not even considering us. Our most prized recruit one year was a 5.7 3 star from Mississippi who we declared the savior of the program because we stole him from the Mississippi schools. Fans were shouting "Jimmy Johns" from the stands demanding Shula play him more. How freaking embarrassing is that? We were awful.


That's because of crappy and gutless hiring of HCs. We hired Dubose (who had just one year experience as a DC) because of a freaking fax campaign by the fanbase...a freaking fax campaign. His inexperience allowed the rogue boosters to run the recruiting trail, which landed us on probation. Then we were screwed because no decent coach in their right mind wanted to go through the sanctions, so we had to hire a freaking glorified QBs coach to take the job. Throw in a coward and a drunken fool in between.

Hopefully we learned from our past mistakes when it comes to hiring our HC.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 7:32 pm
Posted by MrPoppersPuffins
CoMo
Member since Sep 2013
164 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:41 pm to
College football is extremely cyclical. Teams that have no business fizzling out can spiral downhill out of nowhere. It's the nature of the game. Examples:

Notre Dame, Texas, Michigan, USC, Bama a few years ago... It happens.

These predictions mean squat.
This post was edited on 6/15/14 at 7:42 pm
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12451 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:44 pm to
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Bama Bird
It took almost two pages for Hodor to surface.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 6/15/14 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

College football is extremely cyclical. Teams that have no business fizzling out can spiral downhill out of nowhere. It's the nature of the game. Examples:

Notre Dame, Texas, Michigan, USC, Bama a few years ago... It happens.

These predictions mean squat.


Good point. Tennessee has gone in the dumpster as well.
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