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re: "Arkansas can't out-Bama Bama or out-Lsu Lsu"
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:41 pm to adammwilson
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:41 pm to adammwilson
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Petrino runs a different type of system. If you want to simplify it and call it pro style you can but you'd be wrong.
His system must be unique in it doesn't require a defense, good QBs, good WRs, or good TEs, because that is what he left behind, or more accurately did not leave behind.
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:42 pm to Stonehog
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Ryan Mallett was a five star, Knile Davis was first team all-SEC, and we sent multiple offensive linemen to the NFL. Three wide receivers and a tight end all drafted in the same class. Try again.
and what have they done in the NFL?..... I'll wait.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:43 pm to adammwilson
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If you can't tell the difference between these offenses there is no hope for you.
If you think there is an offense to be ran that would be unique to only Arkansas, you can't be helped.
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That being said, it puts less stress on the Defense and puts points on the board.
Houston Nutt's offense put points on the board with no threat of doing do via the pass...
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:45 pm to hawgfaninc
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you guys think berts offense won't work with better talent than we had last year
Unless that Defense improves I don't. Also, the offense has to be more balanced.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:46 pm to DaleDenton
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His system must be unique in it doesn't require a defense, good QBs, good WRs, or good TEs, because that is what he left behind, or more accurately did not leave behind.
His offense can work with mediocre talent. He's smart about covering up his players weaknesses and working around them as well.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:46 pm to adammwilson
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I don't know if you've noticed but football is much different than it was than 2000, 1990, 1980, etc....
Sure has. So, at what point has Arkansas ever needed a quirky, hurry up offense to win?
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Petrino runs a different type of system. If you want to simplify it and call it pro style you can but you'd be wrong
No I wouldn't.
Power I and a single back formation were and are Petrino's bread and butter. He wanted to establish the run so that he can play action your arse to death.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:48 pm to adammwilson
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and what have they done in the NFL?..... I'll wait
What does that matter? Isn't this conversation about college players? What's done by a player in the NFL has no bearing on this convo.
To be drafted, a player most likely is a talented college player.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:49 pm to adammwilson
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His offense can work with mediocre talent. He's smart about covering up his players weaknesses and working around them as well.
He has to have talent on the roster, period.
Brandon Allen was the QB depth chart.
The WR depth chart had 5 names on it.
Jwill was the RB depth chart.
0 TEs on the depth chart.
Not a complete 2 deep on the Oline.
That is what he recruited to Arkansas, there was no plan in place to be able to replace the losses from the 2013 squad on either side of the ball.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:50 pm to Hawgeye
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at what point has Arkansas ever needed a quirky, hurry up offense to win?
I never said anything about a quirky hurry up. I simply stated Petrino's offense is not a normal, typical pro style attack.
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Power I and a single back formation were and are Petrino's bread and butter. He wanted to establish the run so that he can play action your arse to death.
Regardless of what sets he does it out of it's not a pro style.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:50 pm to Hawgeye
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Power I and a single back formation were and are Petrino's bread and butter. He wanted to establish the run so that he can play action your arse to death.
Ironically we couldn't beat Bama in 2010 because we didn't have a run game. I remember like it was yesterday, everyone was saying we needed to be able to pound the ball and control the clock to win in the SEC.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:50 pm to Hawgeye
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To be drafted, a player most likely is a talented college player.
My point being is they were Petrino scheme players. There is a reason Petrino's never had a successful pro QB.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:52 pm to Stonehog
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Ironically we couldn't beat Bama in 2010 because we didn't have a run game. I remember like it was yesterday, everyone was saying we needed to be able to pound the ball and control the clock to win in the SEC
Every Bama game a graphic popped up with a minimum amount of rushing yards required to beat Bama, now its all about passing the ball all over them, funny how the narrative has changed with no facts for it to be based upon doing so.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:52 pm to adammwilson
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I never said anything about a quirky hurry up. I simply stated Petrino's offense is not a normal, typical pro style attack.
On page 10.....
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That being said I place like Arkansas with weak or no in-state recruiting needs a unique offense to set them ahead. Instead what they have is a run heavy pro style Offense that isn't nearly as good as Bama's, LSU's, Florida's, or UGA's.
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Regardless of what sets he does it out of it's not a pro style.
It's not a spread. It's not HUNH.
He runs pro sets, period. I watched the shite first hand for four years.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:53 pm to adammwilson
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Unless that Defense improves I don't
agreed
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Also, the offense has to be more balanced.
agreed again
the funny thing is bert's offenses at Wisconsin were pretty balanced, statistically speaking. he did run the ball more times than pass it, but racked up pretty balanced yardage numbers while doing it that way.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:55 pm to Hawgeye
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It's not a spread. It's not HUNH. He runs pro sets, period. I watched the shite first hand for four years.
He runs pro sets yes but that doesn't make it a pro style offense. How many pro styles do you know that run empty and throw as much as Petrino does?
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:55 pm to Stonehog
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But why do people think those two teams are so special just for Arkansas? No one ever asks if Ole Miss can beat Bama with their style of offense.
Because Ole Miss doesn't run the same style of offense. That was the point of the comment
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:55 pm to hawgfaninc
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the funny thing is bert's offenses at Wisconsin were pretty balanced, statistically speaking. he did run the ball more times than pass it, but racked up pretty balanced yardage numbers while doing it that way.
Yeah. He had some nice QB's at Wisky.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:57 pm to adammwilson
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He runs pro sets yes but that doesn't make it a pro style offense. How many pro styles do you know that run empty and throw as much as Petrino does?
Haven't watched many NFL games over the past few years, eh?
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:57 pm to adammwilson
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Yeah. He had some nice QB's at Wisky.
Only one of them has done anything in the NFL IIRC.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 1:00 pm to StopRobot
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Because Ole Miss doesn't run the same style of offense. That was the point of the comment
Ok, then why don't people ask if State and Ole Miss will be able to beat Auburn and aggy while running the same style of offense?
For whatever reason, most likely disdain for Bielema, talking heads say we can't beat Bama and Lsu with a run heavy offense, but they never say anything about the other West team offenses or who they can beat.
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