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Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:25 pm to Hawgeye
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:25 pm to Hawgeye
quote:No, that wouldn't exactly be hypocritical. I think you're implying that I'm doing that, but I don't understand why you think that.
Isn't it kind of hypocritical to tell someone their beliefs are wrong and/or bigotry, yet you try to force on them what you believe?
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Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:28 pm to Hawgeye
we are dealing with children here, I laugh at their journey
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:33 pm to Pigfeet
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:42 pm to Hog on the Hill
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Simply having the opinion that homosexuality is immoral doesn't make you an a-hole. It's what you do with that opinion that decides whether or not you are a hatemonger or a-hole.
You posted this a few pages back. Basically, because someone doesn't agree with homosexuals being able to marry one another.
Same thing you're accusing these guys of, correct?
Who is right?
I guess when we all die, we will find out?
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:45 pm to Hawgeye
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I guess when we all die, we will find out?
Holy mother of Hawgland, someone else that see's it in a manner of life
Posted on 5/10/14 at 10:59 pm to Hawgeye
quote:I don't think you are explaining your position very clearly. What makes me a hypocrite?
You posted this a few pages back. Basically, because someone doesn't agree with homosexuals being able to marry one another.
Same thing you're accusing these guys of, correct?
Who is right?
I guess when we all die, we will find out?
I think people who try to force their religion on other people by enacting religiously-motivated laws are assholes. That sort of thing is a violation of religious freedom which is guaranteed in the Bill of Rights and applies to all federal and state laws.
Believe whatever you want, preach whatever you want. Legislating it is crossing the line. Where's the hypocrisy in that?
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:09 pm to Hog on the Hill
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I don't think you are explaining your position very clearly. What makes me a hypocrite?
I showed one example in a previous post of yours....
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I think people who try to force their religion on other people by enacting religiously-motivated laws are assholes
Which, is your opinion. They have theirs, you have yours. It doesn't make them any more of an a-hole than you are for what you think.
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:18 pm to Hawgeye
quote:You haven't explained how it's hypocritical. I'm not even sure you understand the post.
I showed one example in a previous post of yours....
I said that having an opinion doesn't necessarily make you an a-hole, but depending on how you act, you might be an a-hole. In other words, your actions determine whether you are an a-hole. What is hypocritical about that statement? Nothing at all.
quote:Water is wet.
Which, is your opinion. They have theirs, you have yours. It doesn't make them any more of an a-hole than you are for what you think.
The thing you're not understanding is the rift between opinion and action. Like I said, believe whatever you want. When you begin trying to dictate behavior based on religion, that's when you're an a-hole.
This post was edited on 5/10/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:20 pm to Hog on the Hill
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religious freedom which is guaranteed in the Bill of Rights and applies to all federal and state laws.
religious and moral values will never be controlled by laws written by man, AD
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:22 pm to Hog on the Hill
Sure...you called them arse holes for something they believe in. You're calling them assholes for them acting, only like those who started our government all the way back to John Hanson.
So, is everyone an a-hole that's been associated with 90% of our countries history?
So, is everyone an a-hole that's been associated with 90% of our countries history?
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:22 pm to Hog on the Hill
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I said that having an opinion doesn't necessarily make you an a-hole, but depending on how you act, you might be an a-hole. In other words, your actions determine whether you are an a-hole.
And some may think your action of posting this makes you an .....
Posted on 5/10/14 at 11:35 pm to Pigfeet
well, for me to not act on my deeply held belief by speaking for what I believe to be a truth, that would imho make me a hypocrite.
Better?
Forcing someone, anyone to succumb to my beliefs would not be Christ like at all.
But, if I believe that one's soul is in danger of being lost, and do not attempt to persuade in a loving way, that persons path in life.....
Better?
Forcing someone, anyone to succumb to my beliefs would not be Christ like at all.
But, if I believe that one's soul is in danger of being lost, and do not attempt to persuade in a loving way, that persons path in life.....
Posted on 5/11/14 at 1:48 am to Razorback Reverend
Tell me about your views on interracial relationships, Rev, mixing of tribes, parables, etc.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:39 am to Hawgeye
quote:No, I didn't. Go back and read it.
Sure...you called them arse holes for something they believe in.
quote:I said DEPENDING ON HOW they act. Yes, I think stripping the right to marry from a group of people based on sexual orientation is assholish behavior.
You're calling them assholes for them acting, only like those who started our government all the way back to John Hanson.
quote:I don't even know what you're talking about.
So, is everyone an a-hole that's been associated with 90% of our countries history?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:40 am to Razorback Reverend
quote:No, that's still not hypocrisy. Seriously, open a dictionary.
well, for me to not act on my deeply held belief by speaking for what I believe to be a truth, that would imho make me a hypocrite.
Better?
I get what you're saying, man, but it's not hypocrisy. It might be insincerity, wishy-washiness, non-committal, or whatever else. It's not hypocrisy.
I think we should let this argument die out because there's no point. I understand what you're saying.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 7:41 am to Hog on the Hill
Also, this thread is an abortion. Can we give it the anchor?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:21 am to Hawgeye
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Isn't it kind of hypocritical
Getting a divorce is a sin, but you practically had a parade to let everyone know about yours.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 2:05 pm to DaleDenton
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Tell me about your views on interracial relationships, Rev, mixing of tribes
I'm not Rev, but there is no sin involved in interracial, or mixing of tribes as long as it's heterosexual.
If you are referring to the Old Testament instructions to the Jews, you do not understand what happened at the cross. Those instructions were to a particular people, at a particular time.
Now we ARE advised, that's it - advised, not forbidden, to not marry a non-believer (unequally yoked.)
The Bible is full of good advice, but there are only two commands. And the 'love thy neighbor as thyself' part? Yes, we are to love homosexuals just as we love ourselves, but we don't have to believe that their lifestyle is 'right' or 'good'.
The marriage thing? Sure, let the homosexuals have a legal something that will give them the same tax write offs or whatever. Let the state recognize them as 'married' if that's what they want to call it. But the institution of marriage that God ordained/created, they will never be seen by God as 'married'. And they should never be married in a church or by a pastor/minister since it's not a union blessed by God.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 2:17 pm to Stonehog
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Getting a divorce is a sin, but you practically had a parade to let everyone know about yours.
Who brought any of my religious beliefs into this?
You're probably the shittiest poster we have here in our fan base.
How do you know divorce is a sin to me or my beliefs?
Is this just your assumption?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 2:37 pm to Hawgeye
Don't worry Hawgeye. This is the as she who like making fun of people whis proud to have been in the military. He will argue no matter what because he thinks he is smarter than everyone else. He is basically a Klarvin/Draconian hybrid, with some Rex mixed in.
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