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Who's a better coach: Mike or Andy?

Posted on 3/20/14 at 4:06 am
Posted by rebeloke
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 4:06 am
I hate this question cause I really don't like either, and they both are classic under achievers. Mike has way more going for him. The separating fact is that our facilities in baseball are upper tier, verses our bottom feeder basketball facilities. That is the tie breaker for me. Andy gets the nod.
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 7:39 am to
I have to respectfully disagree with you there, Yancy. Bianco has a solid program that is a perennial postseason team. Andy is just getting by.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 7:56 am
Posted by SwayzeBalla
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:01 am to
I just look at their postseason histories
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:10 am to
You guys hate Rod Barnes and he took you to 3 tourneys in 8 years. Half of you seem to like Andy Kennedy and he has taken you to 1 tourney in 8 seasons.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:18 am to
Kennedy. Bianco has been given the facilities and fan support to compete with anyone in the country in a sport at which the northern schools can't compete. Kennedy has a turd of a facility, w/ little history or fan support, in a sport that the whole country cares about. Both should be on the hot seat, but we give them raises and extend contracts. If we could get White, i would be fine w/ firing Kennedy today (but otherwise let him stay w/ no extension). Bianco should have been fired last year.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:19 am to
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Bianco has been given the facilities and fan support



to his defense, Bianco built the program.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:20 am to
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You guys hate Rod Barnes and he took you to 3 tourneys in 8 years. Half of you seem to like Andy Kennedy and he has taken you to 1 tourney in 8 seasons.



Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:20 am to
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You guys hate Rod Barnes and he took you to 3 tourneys in 8 years



with Rob Evans' players. Barnes then took us to some miserable seasons.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:23 am to
If you ask me which 8 seasons I take, I take Barnes 8 seasons every time.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:25 am to
really?

1998–1999 Ole Miss 20–13 8–8 T–3rd (West) NCAA 2nd Round
1999–2000 Ole Miss 19–14 5–11 T–5th (West) NIT Quarterfinals
2000–2001 Ole Miss 27–8 11–5 1st (West) NCAA Sweet 16
2001–2002 Ole Miss 20–11 9–7 3rd (West) NCAA 1st Round
2002–2003 Ole Miss 14–15 4–12 T–5th (West)
2003–2004 Ole Miss 13–15 5–11 T–4th (West)
2004–2005 Ole Miss 14–17 4–12 T–5th (West)
2005–2006 Ole Miss 14–16 4–12 T–5th (West)





AK has also won a good 30 more games over the same span.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 9:26 am
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25421 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:27 am to
Yeah...you made 3 tournaments including a sweet 16. I will take that over a handful of meaningless NIT appearances and the one NCAA appearance.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:34 am to
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Yeah...you made 3 tournaments including a sweet 16. I will take that over a handful of meaningless NIT appearances and the one NCAA appearance.




you keep saying this.....as if you're completely ignoring 4 straight losing seasons after Rob's players were gone.


By the same logic, Jackie Sherrill should still be coaching MSU regardless of him only winning 8 games over a three year span...ending with a 2-10 record. Who cares that you only won 2 games his last season......SEC WEST TITLE LIFETIME CONTRACT!!!!
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75667 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:35 am to
Mike easily IMO. When he got here Swayze was a goat ranch and we were arguably the worst baseball program in the SEC. Now we are one of the better programs and have some of the best facilities in the country. Bianco's one flaw is he can't get us to Omaha.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
71652 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:36 am to
I never thought anyone would try to make a more ignorant argument than the "shoulda never fired Cutcliff hurrdurrr"....


....but this one does it.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:39 am to
quote:

You guys hate Rod Barnes and he took you to 3 tourneys in 8 years.

Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25421 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:41 am to
I am not saying Barnes should have kept his job. I am just saying his tenure was more successful than Kennedy's.

You will miss the next two NCAA tournaments and Kennedy will be fired. You will have had a coach that made one NCAA tournament in 10 years, and you loved him for it.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:42 am to
they hate croom but his best season was only one win less than Merlins.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:42 am to
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I am not saying Barnes should have kept his job. I am just saying his tenure was more successful than Kennedy's.

You will miss the next two NCAA tournaments and Kennedy will be fired. You will have had a coach that made one NCAA tournament in 10 years, and you loved him for it.


Here is the big difference in these two scenarios. When Barnes left (fired), he left the program in a lot shittier shape than he found it. Kennedy has done a lot more (facilities wise especially)and will have left us in better shape than Barnes if what you say happens.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 9:43 am
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
71652 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:45 am to
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I am not saying Barnes should have kept his job. I am just saying his tenure was more successful than Kennedy's.


for a tenure to be successful, it needs to actually improve. That's why it's called a "tenure".

His first four seasons were a success. His tenure was a failure. AK's tenure has been consistent. Can't say successful but it hasn't been a failure. He's still yet to take us to below 500 overall and a 4 or 5 win conference record.....not even once. Barnes did that four times in a row.

quote:

You will have had a coach that made one NCAA tournament in 10 years, and you loved him for it.



link?
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25421 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:47 am to
Kennedy is getting credit for the new stadium? Couldn't it be that the Tad Pad is around 50 years old?
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