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re: Any new grumblings on conference expansion ?

Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:43 pm to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:43 pm to
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Since Utah was the other PAC add, not like it affected the Big 12 or Big 10. So at that point you have a stable PAC 12, a stable B1G 12, a stable Big 12, a stable SEC, and a stable ACC. Nebraska was the only brand name that moved in realignment and the only other brand coveted by the B1G - who started realignment in the 90's and in 2009 - was Notre Dame so what pushes any conference to go past 12? Look at the Big 12 before Nebraska left 12 schools, #2 football (3 solid brand names in football - Texas, Oklahoma, and Nebraska), Kansas in basketball, and 7 AAU schools. It is not like Colorado was a brand name in football or basketball and even with both gone you still had 5 AAU schools. Adding Louisville and West Virginia did no academic favors, but at least UL brought value in basketball and WVU brought value in football. With those two keeping it at 12, you do not have to add TCU and adding solid schools in the North probably keeps Mizzou in the fold after they got left at the altar by the B1G. Mizzou could form a voting block of non TX and OK schools (MU, UL, WVU, KSU, FU, ISU) = 6 votes and that is enough to stall the folks in austin a norman from have monopoly power.


This is all fine and dandy but as long as one school was calling the shots we were going to do everything we could to leave. The voting block might seem like a possibility but I don't think that's how things really worked. This was the Big 12, not the SEC. Even so, Texas could always hold the possibility of leaving and taking other schools with them over the ISUs and KSUs.

It was mutually beneficial financially for the SEC to take us and for us to leave, it reopened the negotiating rights for TV and strengthened the footprint for an SEC Network. We stood to make much more money. So did Mizzou. So did the SEC. Adding Louisville would have made the Big 12 better but it wouldn't have stopped us from leaving nor Mizzou
This post was edited on 3/9/14 at 9:45 pm
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:46 pm to
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Adding Louisville would have made the Big 12 better but it wouldn't have stopped us from leaving nor Mizzou


I'm still amazed the B1G didn't take Mizzou. It seemed like a natural fit. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they are here. And maybe it does make more sense for Mizzou to be in the SEC, given how much they recruit Texas.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:48 pm to
I don't know what the B12 is going to do. It just doesn't seem sustainable over the long haul but I'm not sure what the options are.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:51 pm to
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Adding Louisville would have made the Big 12 better but it wouldn't have stopped us from leaving nor Mizzou


TAMU = yes

MU = ??


Just like Nebraska had been dancing with the B1G for a century, so Texas A&M had been dancing with the SEC. TAMU was in the SIAA with all the other SEC schools 100 years ago and had plenty of history with SEC schools (including Arkansas) so like the Huskers, the SEC was just a delayed move leftover from the 1990's. Mizzou was not that integrated and had Oklahoma come with Texas A&M, Mizzou might be in the AAC with Cincinnati right now.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Posted on 3/9/14 at 9:53 pm to
And according to this

they were 5th in TV ratings per conference. The SEC had 9 of the top 15 most viewed football teams.
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