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re: Current 247 Composite GA Top 15 Prospects for 2015
Posted on 2/10/14 at 6:48 pm to MenloDawg
Posted on 2/10/14 at 6:48 pm to MenloDawg
MenloDawg, I actually looked at the past rankings for this and here is what I found. According to Rivals.com, since 2007 here is how the state of Georgia finished.
2007 - 2 5 star and 15 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals 250. Out of those 17 recruits, Georgia signed 4 of them. Neither of the 5 stars went to Georiga, those 2 5 stars - Eric Berry and Cam Newton.
2008 - 2 5 star and 16 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of these 18, Georgia signed 10 of them including 1 of the 5 star.
2009 - 2 5 star and 12 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 16, Georgia signed 5 of them, including 1 of the 5 star.
2010 - 2 5 star and 19 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 21, Georgia signed 5 of them, neither of the 5 star.
2011 - 3 5 star and 13 4 star recruits from the STate of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 16, Georgia signed 8, including 2 of the 5 star.
2012 - 1 5 star and 17 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 18, 4 were signed by Georgia, including the 1 5 star.
2013 - 4 5 star and 12 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals 250. Out of those 16, Georgia signed 4, including 0 5 star.
2014 - 2 5 star and 18 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 20, 5 were signed by Georgia, including 0 5 star.
So to recap, the State of Georgia has produced 18 5 star recruits and a total of 242 prospects out of the State of Georgia that were in the Rivals250. I would consider those top prospects. Out of those 242 recruits, Georgia signed 45 of them. That means, Georgia signed 18.59% of the top recruits in the State of Georgia since 2007. So, OP, why would other schools not think that Georgia has a little problem keeping the best recruits in state when they only sign 18% of the top recruits? I mean, this isn't a myth, it is a truth. It might be hard to see, but it is definitely the truth of Georgia right now.
2007 - 2 5 star and 15 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals 250. Out of those 17 recruits, Georgia signed 4 of them. Neither of the 5 stars went to Georiga, those 2 5 stars - Eric Berry and Cam Newton.
2008 - 2 5 star and 16 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of these 18, Georgia signed 10 of them including 1 of the 5 star.
2009 - 2 5 star and 12 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 16, Georgia signed 5 of them, including 1 of the 5 star.
2010 - 2 5 star and 19 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 21, Georgia signed 5 of them, neither of the 5 star.
2011 - 3 5 star and 13 4 star recruits from the STate of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 16, Georgia signed 8, including 2 of the 5 star.
2012 - 1 5 star and 17 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 18, 4 were signed by Georgia, including the 1 5 star.
2013 - 4 5 star and 12 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals 250. Out of those 16, Georgia signed 4, including 0 5 star.
2014 - 2 5 star and 18 4 star recruits from the State of Georgia were in the Rivals250. Out of those 20, 5 were signed by Georgia, including 0 5 star.
So to recap, the State of Georgia has produced 18 5 star recruits and a total of 242 prospects out of the State of Georgia that were in the Rivals250. I would consider those top prospects. Out of those 242 recruits, Georgia signed 45 of them. That means, Georgia signed 18.59% of the top recruits in the State of Georgia since 2007. So, OP, why would other schools not think that Georgia has a little problem keeping the best recruits in state when they only sign 18% of the top recruits? I mean, this isn't a myth, it is a truth. It might be hard to see, but it is definitely the truth of Georgia right now.
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 6:51 pm to CalLSU
^this
Posted on 2/10/14 at 6:55 pm to CalLSU
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According to Rivals.com, since 2007 here is how the state of Georgia finished.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:03 pm to CalLSU
This conversation is so tired and so overrated. It's about getting good players. Who cares where they're from?
Example from this year: There were three RBs from GA in the Rivals 250 this year. We signed the highest rated one (Chubb). We had Williams committed and were the leader for Choice. We didn't sign them because we got 5* Sony Michel from Florida. Using your statistics, that counts against us, but we'll likely have a more talented roster as a result of that decision.
On top of that, the guys that Rivals thinks are the best players in GA are often not the players UGA thinks are the best in GA.
Example from this year: There were three RBs from GA in the Rivals 250 this year. We signed the highest rated one (Chubb). We had Williams committed and were the leader for Choice. We didn't sign them because we got 5* Sony Michel from Florida. Using your statistics, that counts against us, but we'll likely have a more talented roster as a result of that decision.
On top of that, the guys that Rivals thinks are the best players in GA are often not the players UGA thinks are the best in GA.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:57 pm to CalLSU
This is the exact argument I rebutted basically of TT up above except you have done more research, so I'm not going to rehash anything. I've covered that in a smaller sample size HERE.
The point is, and what I think this thread will eventually show, is that UGA actually signs a much larger percentage of the top 15 kids instate that they want/pursue than 18%. The example I've used endlessly is Mike Davis/Kenyan Drake and Gurley/Marshall. The fact that I have to use the former's full names and only the latter's last names are all you need to know. Or Mitch Hyatt is a good example. Whole family went to Clemson, some family played at Clemson and he's a 5 star who happens to live in Gwinnett County. That wouldn't show up in a retrospective analysis unless you really dig, so I'm looking at it prospectively.
It's just something I want to monitor over the course of the year and see just how it plays out. Maybe do it annually, who knows.
I think the only plausible ranking system to use would be the 247 composite because it incorporates more opinions and is more likely to keep bias out. I don't think any single recruiting service nails it, but collectively they do a pretty solid job.
ETA: If it proves to be wrong over the course of the next couple years, then, yeah I'm wrong. Oh well. Just interested to see how it works out.
The point is, and what I think this thread will eventually show, is that UGA actually signs a much larger percentage of the top 15 kids instate that they want/pursue than 18%. The example I've used endlessly is Mike Davis/Kenyan Drake and Gurley/Marshall. The fact that I have to use the former's full names and only the latter's last names are all you need to know. Or Mitch Hyatt is a good example. Whole family went to Clemson, some family played at Clemson and he's a 5 star who happens to live in Gwinnett County. That wouldn't show up in a retrospective analysis unless you really dig, so I'm looking at it prospectively.
It's just something I want to monitor over the course of the year and see just how it plays out. Maybe do it annually, who knows.
I think the only plausible ranking system to use would be the 247 composite because it incorporates more opinions and is more likely to keep bias out. I don't think any single recruiting service nails it, but collectively they do a pretty solid job.
ETA: If it proves to be wrong over the course of the next couple years, then, yeah I'm wrong. Oh well. Just interested to see how it works out.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:58 pm to CalLSU
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So to recap, the State of Georgia has produced 18 5 star recruits and a total of 242 prospects out of the State of Georgia that were in the Rivals250. I would consider those top prospects. Out of those 242 recruits, Georgia signed 45 of them. That means, Georgia signed 18.59% of the top recruits in the State of Georgia since 2007. So, OP, why would other schools not think that Georgia has a little problem keeping the best recruits in state when they only sign 18% of the top recruits? I mean, this isn't a myth, it is a truth. It might be hard to see, but it is definitely the truth of Georgia right now.
And we'll sign the best players from other states but that counts against us. Tramel Terry, Sony Michel, Ben Jones, Matt Stafford, Gurley, Marshall, Park, etc...
We focus on more than Ga, y'all. We have top 10 classes almost every year and this is what people harp on. The difference between the number 10 class and the number 5 class can be one player. It's a small discrepancy and is blown completely blown out of proportion.
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