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re: so the 2 states with legal pot have their nfl teams in the superbowl

Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:21 am to
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:21 am to
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Yes. Weed does do harm. You apparently choose to ignore the scientific findings about the increase in car accidents, etc. Addiction.....oh, and it impairs the ability to learn, too. But, that is a given if anyone reads this thread.


Weed may not impair memory, which I believe it doesnt.

"A new study published and funded by the National Institute of Health has found that poor working memory and attention control is associated with a lower efficiency of the endocannabinoid system, indicating that cannabis could improve these functions as it activates and positively regulates this system"

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And your biggest argument against pot being legal is that people gets in wrecks while high. That is so stupid. People get in wrecks from texting, you want to make cell phone use illegal, and we go back to house phones? People get in wrecks from eating while driving, you want to make all food illegal, and we could all just starve to death? People get in wrecks from being distracted by passengers, you want to make it illegal to have more than 1 person in a vehicle? Just bc weed may have been the cause to the wreck (like eating, texting, distractions), doesnt mean that it specifically (weed, food, phones, distractions) should be made illegal. What should be made illegal is the behavior that causes the wreck, which is driving while high. Then yes you are right! But this is not your argument, so yeah.

Marijuana does not make you drowsy like you are being told. Yes you can get drowsy from weed, but you can get drowsy after you eat food. You want to make it illegal to drive within an hr or two after eating too? All kinds of stuff makes people drowsy. And if thats your best argument against it, then you need to come up with a better one. Its getting old hearing you say, "what about the driving? You guys you double your risk of getting in wrecks when high. Come on you guys, you gotta believe if I keep saying it!"

I dont believe in the bible or stuff like that, since most of it is not original to christianity like they want you to believe, but thats a whole other subject. But to humor you, i will show the bible supported weed. Its fairly simple and straight forward.

Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of the Earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, i have given every green herb for meat; and it was so."

Clearly weed is either a herb or tree and it is supposed to be used for meat. So you eat weed, you get high, so god wanted us to get high. I'm interested to see how your gonna spin this one.

Also the holy anointing oil can be found to contain cannabis. The translation was lost in some of the king james bibles, but looking at anciet texts, it can be found. Also your skin is your largest organ on your body, so what do you think will happen when you rub the holy anointing oil on your skin w/ cannabis in it????

shite I bet jesus smoked weed too, he prob was a drug dealer, how could you not trust him? Haha For someone to be the son of god, there sure are some gaps in his life, left out of the bible. You dont think he didnt smoke weed in his teen and young adult years?? It also raises another question as to why they left it out?? Really the whole bible should of been about him, since he was god, not someone getting a dream from god, but god. It makes no sense.

Also, the biggest problem with weed being illegal, is a right of freedom. I should be able to do what I want in my own home as long as I'm not harming others. People want to take away from this statment by comparing other harder drug use, but yeah let them do that too. Legalize all drugs, control it like you do alcohol, tax it and let the adults be fricking adults. If you commit a crime while on a drug, just like with alcohol, you could be penalized harsher b/c of this. Same thing with gambling and prostitution. All three of these things are illegal, imagine if they were legal and taxed. You take all that money off the black market and put it back into the economy, where it should be. Next, this money that is taken from the black market, is no longer supplying cash for gangs, thugs, mafia, etc , which is probably the easiest way for them to make money, since robbing banks and stealing cars aren't always as easy. With drugs being legal, there will be an age limit, which drug dealers no nothing about. Middle and highschoolers will not be able to get it as easy. I know alcohol can be gotten pretty easy, but not as easy as someone who doesnt id, ever.

Also if all drugs were legal, you think everyone is just going to start shooting up meth?? Hell no! And if weed was legal, most people would probably do that over meth and other drugs. I've known people to start other drugs (even legal prescription ones) b/c they were on probabtion and couldn't smoke. Well these people are regretting ever doing that, and still to this day have ongoing battles with them. One guy is probably going to be on methadone for the rest of his life, which I hate to say. And I dont support the other drug use, but atleast taxing and controlling it will be better than the blackmarket and people blowing up their homes trying to make this stuff, or people dying from buying a product, that was actually something else, or cut with some nasty shite. All and all, keeping drugs legal and controlled (like alcohol) is better for our economy and prison systems (a whole other topic b/c prisons of profit businesses, so more prisoners means more money (tax money for us)), than keeping it illegal funding gangs and crime, selling to minors, and enlarging our prisons with nonviolent crimes, unlike murderers rapists, thieves, etc.
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 7:28 am
Posted by trojans82
Douglas
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:42 am to
I have ADD so it slows my mind down and allows me to focus. My first semester back in college after I left active duty Army. I smoked most days. I made sure not to go to school high but after working out most days I would smoke then study a little. I made the dean's list for the first time EVER that semester.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61744 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:48 am to
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Weed may not impair memory, which I believe it doesnt.
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Marijuana does not make you drowsy like you are being told. Yes you can get drowsy from weed
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i will show the bible supported weed.
I don't even know where to begin with any of this, so I just wanted to showcase my favorite examples of stoner wisdom.

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Clearly weed is either a herb or tree and it is supposed to be used for meat. So you eat weed, you get high, so god wanted us to get high.
Your point? He also created hemlock, arsenic and puffer fish. In fact, I think he made those things for YOU! We promise not to go to the cops if you want to go indulge in any of those things, so long as you promise to do it right now.

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shite I bet jesus smoked weed too, he prob was a drug dealer, how could you not trust him? Haha For someone to be the son of god, there sure are some gaps in his life, left out of the bible. You dont think he didnt smoke weed in his teen and young adult years??
There you go. Your infallible insight has completely upended literally millennia of established beliefs. Thank God he created marijuana plants so you could selflessly smoke yourself into a stupor for the purposes of being the harbinger of this modern revelation.

Now, shockingly enough, I agree with the more libertarian angle of the bottom part of your brainfried tirade, but it's just a shame you have to get it muddled in the fringe, "Jesus loved weed, man!" stuff that makes rational folks instantly dismiss you as an idiot.
This post was edited on 1/22/14 at 7:51 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59019 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 7:59 am to
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Weed may not impair memory, which I believe it doesnt.


Well, Science Daily disagrees with you. And you DO realize your link takes you the "The Joint Blog", right?

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And your biggest argument against pot being legal is that people gets in wrecks while high. That is so stupid. People get in wrecks from texting, you want to make cell phone use illegal, and we go back to house phones?


You DO realize that using the cell phone while driving IS illegal in most states, don't you? No. I do NOT want to make cell phones illegal...but I DO want texting and the use of cell phones while driving illegal. (As it is...because...it causes accidents) Thanks for making my point. You are being silly. You saying eating while driving causes accidents, so I want to make food illegal. PLEASE. I think you know what the point is, yet you are distorting it. There is no use talkign with you if you are going to puposely misrepresent what I am saying.

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Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of the Earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to everything that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, i have given every green herb for meat; and it was so."



I did not bring the Bible into this conversation. Some of the pro weed group did. However, the verse you are talkign about is grains for food....NOT marijuana. I'm sorry. I won't respond to any more of your posts. You distort and twist everything to make a point. You use pro marijuana blogs as reliable sources instead of scientific studies and you just plain lie about my arguments. there is no use talking or debating with you.


I will continue to debate with others on the subject, but I will no longer respond to your posts. no offense, but honest debate is what I am looking for.





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