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Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:50 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 1/6/14 at 7:50 pm to FooManChoo
> disregard evidence
> disregard expert opinion
Delusional.
> accuse scientists of collaborative liberal conspiracy
Paranoia.
Y'all are flat-earthers.
> disregard expert opinion
Delusional.
> accuse scientists of collaborative liberal conspiracy
Paranoia.
Y'all are flat-earthers.
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Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:01 pm to greygatch
Evidence is based on interpretation and it goes both ways.
There are experts on both sides, and experts aren't always right.
Nothing delusional about it. If the topic were so cut and dried, there wouldn't be a debate about it.
I didn't see an actual accusation of conspiracy. I saw opinions expressed that natural biases can get in the way of the truth.
I've found it is far easier to attack a person than an idea, so I don't blame you for bringing out the "flat-earther" comment. I expected more of it, frankly.
There are experts on both sides, and experts aren't always right.
Nothing delusional about it. If the topic were so cut and dried, there wouldn't be a debate about it.
I didn't see an actual accusation of conspiracy. I saw opinions expressed that natural biases can get in the way of the truth.
I've found it is far easier to attack a person than an idea, so I don't blame you for bringing out the "flat-earther" comment. I expected more of it, frankly.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 8:07 pm to greygatch
The science of climatology is a new discipline that is incredibly complex. So new and complex they don't really have a way to test their models except time. In other words, they throw out educated guesses and then see if they were right. If so, they can build on it, if not, they can try again.
But that's not what they did, or are doing. They came up with models that they liked and then deemed the science to be over. There is only one possible reason to do that. Ideology, not science. And this is being proved out. Every time one of the models doesn't work out the way it's predicted, they stick with the same original theory (man-made global warming) and dream up a new theory why they are right (such as - all of the warming is, um, deep under water where it can't be seen, tested, or confirmed!).
So open your eyes, use your brain, and don't blindly accept things when the plain evidence and your own common sense tell you the exact opposite.
"The science is closed." Oh, it is? Gee, then everyone else must be an idiot Mr. Gore. Thanks.
Give me a break, and please don't be so frickin' gullible next time.
But that's not what they did, or are doing. They came up with models that they liked and then deemed the science to be over. There is only one possible reason to do that. Ideology, not science. And this is being proved out. Every time one of the models doesn't work out the way it's predicted, they stick with the same original theory (man-made global warming) and dream up a new theory why they are right (such as - all of the warming is, um, deep under water where it can't be seen, tested, or confirmed!).
So open your eyes, use your brain, and don't blindly accept things when the plain evidence and your own common sense tell you the exact opposite.
"The science is closed." Oh, it is? Gee, then everyone else must be an idiot Mr. Gore. Thanks.
Give me a break, and please don't be so frickin' gullible next time.
Posted on 1/6/14 at 9:30 pm to greygatch
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> disregard evidence > disregard expert opinion Delusional. > accuse scientists of collaborative liberal conspiracy Paranoia. Y'all are flat-earthers
You've still never answered my main question.
Every climate scientist agrees that many times in Earth's past, greenhouse gas levels were significantly higher and more concentrated than they are now. And yet, during those times, we had many periods of extreme cooling and extreme warming.
What is your explaination for how we had over 7,000 ppmv of CO2, and yet had millions of years of ice age during that time?
How is 400 ppmv supposed to mean anything when we had millions of years of consistent freezing climate with over 7,000 ppmv?
You won't be able to answer that question and explain it away, because your group of super scientists can't even answer or explain that conundrum away.
Posted on 1/7/14 at 4:46 pm to greygatch
Flat-earther??
"Feel not as though it is a sphere we live on; rather an infinite plain which has an illusion of leading yourself back to the point of origin. Once we understand that all the spheres in the sky are just large infinite plains, it will be plain to see—okay? "
- Reggie Watts
"Feel not as though it is a sphere we live on; rather an infinite plain which has an illusion of leading yourself back to the point of origin. Once we understand that all the spheres in the sky are just large infinite plains, it will be plain to see—okay? "
- Reggie Watts
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