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6 drops, 6 sacks, and
Posted on 10/6/13 at 2:45 am
Posted on 10/6/13 at 2:45 am
Zero sacks for us. Plus, I don't know what was going on when Bro was trying to hit Donte when we were backed up on the goaline. It appeared that DM was not expecting a pass.
And I don't think we will see LaQuon throw another pass.
Has someone charted Mathers carries/yards each game? Can he not block?
And I don't think we will see LaQuon throw another pass.
Has someone charted Mathers carries/yards each game? Can he not block?
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Posted on 10/6/13 at 5:16 am to matthew25
He blocked pretty damn well on the second Moncrief touchdown. His ypc is always around 6-7.
Posted on 10/6/13 at 10:15 am to matthew25
I've learned that the lamer our motivational videos, the worse we do.
Posted on 10/6/13 at 11:22 am to TotalRebel
We're just not there yet... Looks like we need 2 more classes like last year's before we can really compete for the West... I mean, that last Auburn TD drive was awful... When they were showing the replays the announcers should've said "That Tiger touchdown drive was brought to you by Cameron Whigham !" Nutt's players are awful and we still rely on way too many of them... But our freshmen and sophs seem to be making strides every game... Gonna have to be patient... And Bo goes the right place with the ball about 1 out if every 3 or 4 pass plays... He's throwing into tight coverage the rest.
This post was edited on 10/6/13 at 11:25 am
Posted on 10/6/13 at 4:22 pm to matthew25
I really can't blame Bo for the game either. They cut through our O-line like butter and everyone else seemed as if their hands were greased up. Just terrible performance all around the team.
Posted on 10/6/13 at 4:28 pm to OMLandshark
247 article asked an interesting question. Is our offense so afraid of Bo making mistakes that is handcuffing itself? Idk the answer
Posted on 10/6/13 at 5:11 pm to UMRealist
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247 article asked an interesting question. Is our offense so afraid of Bo making mistakes that is handcuffing itself? Idk the answer
Bo Wallace is a walking mistake. Jevan Snead 2.0
Posted on 10/6/13 at 6:03 pm to Doresrules
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Bo Wallace is a walking mistake. Jevan Snead 2.0
While I do believe that Wallace should shoulder some of the blame, when you have a QB running for his life half the game, it is hard to get in a rhythm and not screw up your internal clock.
points that should be made
-Someone had the plays wrong between Moncreif and Wallace. Considering Wallace is calling them I am going to say that Moncreif was screwing up. That 8 to 10 yard hitch route to the outside shoulder should have been completed so many times and Moncreif just wasn't even looking for it
-Treadwell has a long way to go with consistency. I don't think anyone would argue his extremely high talent ceiling but the kid looks like he has bricks for hands out there.
-Your offensive line needs to step up its play. Laremy Tunsil got schooled by Lawson on that last sack which is FR on FR. It is extremely difficult for your to have such a young OL but they need to step up. Their inability to block hurt ya'll so bad
- Read Option Failure- Auburn's DEs consistently would appear to play the RB option on the RO then chase down Bo Wallace. I truly beleive that it is more a testament to Auburn tricking the QB and having the speed to chase him down but ya'll need to figure that out. Whether it is Bo Wallace being too slow (I believe a small part) or your RB needing to at least hit that DE in same regard to get him a step behind, something needs to be done. Plays turned into TFLs or 1-2 yard gains instead of 3-5 which completely ruined the rhythm . Also, your OLine is partly to blame as well
Questions-
Who is going to be a power back for ya'll? It seems like Freeze likes to run a misdirection game with some finesse which is a good thing but ya'll could not establish a power run game which took away from your runs outside the tackles. Do you have a RB that can provide that dynamic as time goes forward? (Jordan Wilkins maybe?)
I haven't seen all ya'lls games so how have you felt about your FR OLinemen? Golson and Tunsil appeared to have played the whole game and both had some mistakes. Is it just a youth and experience thing or are ya'll worried?
Posted on 10/6/13 at 7:09 pm to GenesChin
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Who is going to be a power back for ya'll? It seems like Freeze likes to run a misdirection game with some finesse which is a good thing but ya'll could not establish a power run game which took away from your runs outside the tackles. Do you have a RB that can provide that dynamic as time goes forward? (Jordan Wilkins maybe?)
Wilkins is redshirting I believe. We don't really have a power back but I'tavius Mathers (who had 4 carries and 28 yards) is a very good between the tackles option. For some reason unknown Freeze almost refuses to give him touches. Coming into this season he had a 7.7 ypc average and I think he's actually raised that average since. Also Mark Dodson is even a little bigger, and Freeze already burned his redshirt, but he hasn't seen more than a few snaps all season.
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I haven't seen all ya'lls games so how have you felt about your FR OLinemen? Golson and Tunsil appeared to have played the whole game and both had some mistakes. Is it just a youth and experience thing or are ya'll worried?
Feel good about them but their youth and inexperience is hurtful. Also, in the Vandy game, we lost Aaron Morris one of our starting guards and have been forced to really shuffle our oline around. At the time it seemed to fix many of the first half issues we had against Vandy but I wonder now if it isn't part of the issue.
Posted on 10/6/13 at 7:19 pm to UMRealist
Mathers had some solid carries and was impressive. Surprised we didn't see more of him. Frustrating when guys seem to be doing well and coaches don't give them touches.
What is the deal with Brunetti? His size make that read option pretty scary considering it is hard to defend both inside and out with him in. He didn't look particularly comfortable or great at running but he clearly is better than Wallace as a threat while not on IQ.
Is the FR QB ya'll have and developing going to develop into a bruiser?
I remember watching him go down. Vandy was dominant along the LOS then Ole Miss didn't give up another sack in the second half. Tunsil seemed a little raw and got abused a little which I was surprised by. Hard as a true FR to come in, especially at LT but I expected a little more.
Other than Golson and Tunsil, is there a lot of potential talent for future years along the OLine or are you hoping guys break out? I mean, are there guys that are expected to be top notch and just need time to get caught up to speed or is OLine going to be a ? in the coming years?
ETA: Regarding the Nkemdiche brothers, what was their deal? Denzel played well but is he still hobbled by his injury? Considering just how great he was last year, I figured he would be a little more important (I thought Prewitt was your best defender last night)
Also, RN clearly is big and athletic and going to be a stud but he wasn't a playmaker. I've watched a few other games and he hasn't really been dominant yet. I realize he is a true FR but for the snaps he gets, I figured he would be doing more. Is it just conditioning because it isn't the first time he is gassed in the second half (maybe more rotations?) I hope for Ole Miss he lives up to the hype. He looks fricking huge out there
Lavon Hooks, I saw him play but didn't pay too much attention. How is he doing for ya'll? I wanted him pretty badly
What is the deal with Brunetti? His size make that read option pretty scary considering it is hard to defend both inside and out with him in. He didn't look particularly comfortable or great at running but he clearly is better than Wallace as a threat while not on IQ.
Is the FR QB ya'll have and developing going to develop into a bruiser?
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Feel good about them but their youth and inexperience is hurtful. Also, in the Vandy game, we lost Aaron Morris one of our starting guards and have been forced to really shuffle our oline around. At the time it seemed to fix many of the first half issues we had against Vandy but I wonder now if it isn't part of the issue.
I remember watching him go down. Vandy was dominant along the LOS then Ole Miss didn't give up another sack in the second half. Tunsil seemed a little raw and got abused a little which I was surprised by. Hard as a true FR to come in, especially at LT but I expected a little more.
Other than Golson and Tunsil, is there a lot of potential talent for future years along the OLine or are you hoping guys break out? I mean, are there guys that are expected to be top notch and just need time to get caught up to speed or is OLine going to be a ? in the coming years?
ETA: Regarding the Nkemdiche brothers, what was their deal? Denzel played well but is he still hobbled by his injury? Considering just how great he was last year, I figured he would be a little more important (I thought Prewitt was your best defender last night)
Also, RN clearly is big and athletic and going to be a stud but he wasn't a playmaker. I've watched a few other games and he hasn't really been dominant yet. I realize he is a true FR but for the snaps he gets, I figured he would be doing more. Is it just conditioning because it isn't the first time he is gassed in the second half (maybe more rotations?) I hope for Ole Miss he lives up to the hype. He looks fricking huge out there
Lavon Hooks, I saw him play but didn't pay too much attention. How is he doing for ya'll? I wanted him pretty badly
This post was edited on 10/6/13 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 10/6/13 at 7:36 pm to GenesChin
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What is the deal with Brunetti? His size make that read option pretty scary considering it is hard to defend both inside and out with him in. He didn't look particularly comfortable or great at running but he clearly is better than Wallace as a threat while not on IQ.
He's horrible passing. He was our QB a bit in 2011 if that tells you anything
. Can't leave him in for too long with no threat of throwing the ball. quote:
Is the FR QB ya'll have and developing going to develop into a bruiser?
No not at all. He's a drop back passer that can make plays with his legs if need be. 6'1 210ish lbs right now. Hope we can put another 10-15 lbs on him.
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Other than Golson and Tunsil, is there a lot of potential talent for future years along the OLine or are you hoping guys break out? I mean, are there guys that are expected to be top notch and just need time to get caught up to speed or is OLine going to be a ? in the coming years?
Well we've got the #10 tackle from the 2013 class transferring from UCLA and we've got some good guys coming in 2014 (#1 OG Rod Taylor and #8 OT Andy Bauer). We lose starting RT Pierce Burton and LG Emmanuel Mccray and C Evan Swindoll to graduation along with Jared Duke and Patrick Junen. We return Tunsil, Golson, Aaron Morris and Justin Bell.
Outside of that I don't really know much about our OL depth chart.
This post was edited on 10/6/13 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 10/6/13 at 9:08 pm to UMRealist
We also return Robert Conyers who could play center or tackle. We have Daronte Bouldin and Davion Johnson both 3 stars last year from MS who are RS. Ben Still is the backup center this year and will return as well.
Aaron Morris will rejoin the team after his knee injury this year.
Assuming no injuries the starting lineup will be Tunsil, Morris, Still, Bell, Golson all of whom have playing experience.2nd unit of Johnson, Bouldin, Conyers, Taylor, and Bauer. As the year goes on I could see someone taking Still spot, Rod Taylor working his way into the starting lineup with Bauer being a nice backup. Inexperienced backups, but as much talent as we've ever had.
Tyler Putman probably RS next year.
Aaron Morris will rejoin the team after his knee injury this year.
Assuming no injuries the starting lineup will be Tunsil, Morris, Still, Bell, Golson all of whom have playing experience.2nd unit of Johnson, Bouldin, Conyers, Taylor, and Bauer. As the year goes on I could see someone taking Still spot, Rod Taylor working his way into the starting lineup with Bauer being a nice backup. Inexperienced backups, but as much talent as we've ever had.
Tyler Putman probably RS next year.
Posted on 10/6/13 at 9:11 pm to Doresrules
We are also looking at taking a JUCO OL as well this year.
Posted on 10/6/13 at 11:12 pm to GenesChin
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Lavon Hooks, I saw him play but didn't pay too much attention. How is he doing for ya'll? I wanted him pretty badly
I expected a Hell of a lot more from someone who was so touted and who also got to go through the spring and summer workouts.
Posted on 10/6/13 at 11:13 pm to Quicksilver
Only time I've noticed him on the field all year was when he lined up at tight end and the announcers commented on it
This post was edited on 10/6/13 at 11:14 pm
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:05 am to Doresrules
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We are also looking at taking a JUCO OL as well this year.
I was thinking that this would be a smart choice for OM at least for competition. I'm glad we were able to pluck a JUCO OG/OC from Miss because I thought ya'll would be combing the ranks
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I expected a Hell of a lot more from someone who was so touted and who also got to go through the spring and summer workouts.
I thought he was going to be a top notch DT yet he hasn't seemed to do anything which is why I asked. The fact that RN is rotating inside on plays had me wondering what was going on after I remember he played for ya'll. So is there no word on his progress?
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No not at all. He's a drop back passer that can make plays with his legs if need be. 6'1 210ish lbs right now. Hope we can put another 10-15 lbs on him.
So will Freeze still run that zone read/read option with Kincade or will he turn his offense into more of a passing offense? Also, what is Kincade's athleticism in terms of running? At 6'1 220, he should be able to be a pretty scary inside runners on thatt read option.
So I assume OM assumes Kincade is the future and Ryan Buchannan will be a nice mop up duty player?
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:19 am to GenesChin
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So will Freeze still run that zone read/read option with Kincade or will he turn his offense into more of a passing offense? Also, what is Kincade's athleticism in terms of running? At 6'1 220, he should be able to be a pretty scary inside runners on thatt read option.
Maybe I misunderstood your question earlier. Kincade will definitely be running the read option. Imagine Bo with a much stronger arm and the ability to run a 4.5-4.6. Of course we won't know how well he makes decisions and whatnot until he's out there but the kid works extremely hard and i would say the vast majority of fans think he will beat out Ryan. He was taking snaps with the twos just a couple weeks ago and I have to believe that if Bo were to go down with something serious, DK would be starting over Brunetti.
Ryan honestly seemed really overrated from the start IMO. He played and looked great in Mississippi private school ball which is pretty terrible. I think he could be the most accurate passer we have but his arm strength in closer to Bo's than DKs IMO.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 12:20 am
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:22 am to UMRealist
Pretty sure you have Buchanan and DK's arm strength backwards. Buchanan has a Hell of an arm whereas Kincade is much more accurate and well-versed within the system. Buchanan was handicapped in HS because his offense was run 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:30 am to Quicksilver
Hmm maybe so. I've never seen him play so I can't tell from personal experience, just what I remember reading. You could be right though I might have the arm strength backwards.
Eta: I looked it up and your right. Scout had arm strength as DKs "need for improvement". And has accuracy listed for Ryan.
So yeah I was backwards on that
Eta: I looked it up and your right. Scout had arm strength as DKs "need for improvement". And has accuracy listed for Ryan.
So yeah I was backwards on that
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 12:35 am
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:05 pm to UMRealist
Just to add a few more comments:
4 of the drops would have resulted in first downs.
Jeff carried only 6 times. Caught some passes, including one on 3rd down when he came up a yard short. WHY the short pass in that situation when we needed a first.
TE caught only 2 passes.
4 of the drops would have resulted in first downs.
Jeff carried only 6 times. Caught some passes, including one on 3rd down when he came up a yard short. WHY the short pass in that situation when we needed a first.
TE caught only 2 passes.
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