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re: A&M Ken Doll

Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:12 am to
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:12 am to
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The TAMU system does a much better job of organizing 80,000 fans into a synchronized wall of sound. Ask yourself which system is more likely to assist the guys wearing the pads and helmets in their efforts to win the game. That IS the goal, is it not?


you're full of shite. any objective person merely has to look at top teams long term record and see that there's absolutely no truth in what you say. any statistian would easily find no correlation at all. BUT, you say it's true. you are making that up bud.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 10:19 am to
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you're full of shite. any objective person merely has to look at top teams long term record and see that there's absolutely no truth in what you say. any statistian would easily find no correlation at all. BUT, you say it's true. you are making that up bud.



Any objective person would know better than to take a statistician's "findings" by themselves as proof of ANYTHING. Those guys can make numbers say whatever they want. I have personally witnessed it.

Either way, you are left with a chicken and egg dilemma. Did the "good team" make the crowd loud and rowdy or did the loud and rowdy crowd make the team "good"?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 1:07 pm to
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AggieHank86

The TAMU system does a much better job of organizing 80,000 fans into a synchronized wall of sound. Ask yourself which system is more likely to assist the guys wearing the pads and helmets in their efforts to win the game. That IS the goal, is it not?

LSU GrandDad

you're full of shite. any objective person merely has to look at top teams long term record and see that there's absolutely no truth in what you say. any statistian would easily find no correlation at all. BUT, you say it's true. you are making that up bud.


Sir, if you know anything at all about Statistics (which seems imminently unlikely), you will be familiar with the axiom that "correlation is not equal to causation."

The simple fact is that other schools have had better teams than TAMU for the vast majority of TAMU's history. (I was fortunate to attend during the Jackie Era, when such was not the case, as a general rule.)

Also as a general rule, the program with the better team (better coaches, better players, more money, better facilities, etcetera) will normally win the game.

For most of that history, we were not that team.

We were an all-male, military school with a very small student body and (consequently) a very small donor base. One would EXPECT other schools to have been able to out-spend us (and thus out-recruit us).

We are now the largest school in the state of Texas and the largest school in the SEC. Our endowment is now larger than the next three SEC schools COMBINED. Give us a few years for the perception to catch up with the reality, and we will be rolling in the types of recruits that our opponents have enjoyed for decades. We are almost at that point now, but those kids are still freshmen and sophomores, for the most part.

So, the question that I first addressed is not whether a weaker team with organized fans will always beat a superior team without organized fans. USUALLY, this will not happen.

The question is whether the SAME team will have a better chance of success with an organized fanbase or with a bunch of drunkards who are vaguely aware that a game is taking place a few dozen yards from where they are sitting.

I contend that the SAME team has a better chance of success if its fans are able to provide that small bit of auditory assistance, as opposed to being too intoxicated to be aware that their noise may be needed.
This post was edited on 9/24/13 at 1:14 pm
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