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Posted on 7/27/13 at 12:22 pm to TeLeFaWx
Posted on 7/27/13 at 12:22 pm to TeLeFaWx
I think you're missing my point though. My point is that the Religious Right and Christians in general shouldn't cherry pick some sins as worst than others and should focus on the sin nature that EVERYONE has (if you believe the Bible) and include themselves as "bad" or "sinful" when preaching or debating with someone. In other words something as seemingly trivial as gossiping or envying your friend for his house or job and wishing you had them is just as bad as adultery, homosexuality, etc, etc.
If you object to me merely pointing out that the Bible very clearly points out the things I listed as sins then I don't know what to tell you. You and I might not like it and may think for example that gays have the right to marry and live as they choose but I can't believe what the Bible says while pretending that gay marriage is Biblical sound. That doesn't mean that as one who believes himself to be Christian that I or other Christians should fight gay marriage or stand in the way or them getting married. There is a big difference.
Edit: I misread your last post as saying are instead of aren't
If you object to me merely pointing out that the Bible very clearly points out the things I listed as sins then I don't know what to tell you. You and I might not like it and may think for example that gays have the right to marry and live as they choose but I can't believe what the Bible says while pretending that gay marriage is Biblical sound. That doesn't mean that as one who believes himself to be Christian that I or other Christians should fight gay marriage or stand in the way or them getting married. There is a big difference.
Edit: I misread your last post as saying are instead of aren't
This post was edited on 7/27/13 at 12:26 pm
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Posted on 7/27/13 at 12:50 pm to Govt Tide
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I think you're missing my point though. My point is that the Religious Right and Christians in general shouldn't cherry pick some sins as worst than others and should focus on the sin nature that EVERYONE has (if you believe the Bible) and include themselves as "bad" or "sinful" when preaching or debating with someone. In other words something as seemingly trivial as gossiping or envying your friend for his house or job and wishing you had them is just as bad as adultery, homosexuality, etc, etc.
If you object to me merely pointing out that the Bible very clearly points out the things I listed as sins then I don't know what to tell you. You and I might not like it and may think for example that gays have the right to marry and live as they choose but I can't believe what the Bible says while pretending that gay marriage is Biblical sound. That doesn't mean that as one who believes himself to be Christian that I or other Christians should fight gay marriage or stand in the way or them getting married. There is a big difference.
You are SO right! My s/o is very socially conservative, an I'm not. He realized very early on that I live my life in a pretty conservative way. But I do not tell others what they should or shouldn't do. That is for them to decide, not me. He says I'm not a "typical liberal", I just have some liberal tendencies to go with my very conservative upbringing.
I realize that in God's eyes, sin is sin. And everyone will struggle with their own path in this regard. I want to live my life so that I like the person who looks back from the mirror and is at peace with myself and my actions. But I won't try to force my beliefs and way of life on others politically.
Posted on 7/27/13 at 2:11 pm to Govt Tide
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I think you're missing my point though. My point is that the Religious Right and Christians in general shouldn't cherry pick some sins as worst than others and should focus on the sin nature that EVERYONE has (if you believe the Bible) and include themselves as "bad" or "sinful" when preaching or debating with someone. In other words something as seemingly trivial as gossiping or envying your friend for his house or job and wishing you had them is just as bad as adultery, homosexuality, etc, etc.
I agree. If you believe the purpose is to view all sin equally, and you admit you aren't free of sin, outlawing gay marriage is no different that outlawing gossiping or wishing you wanted a neighbor's car. But all sin isn't equal. Murder is worse than perpetuating a belief in Santa Claus.
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If you object to me merely pointing out that the Bible very clearly points out the things I listed as sins then I don't know what to tell you.
You don't have to tell me anything. I don't believe in the Bible's view of sin any more than I do the Koran, the Book of Mormon, Dianetics or the Brothers Grimm. So your reaction to a Muslim talking about how it is a sin to draw a picture of the Prophet of Mohamed is my reaction to those things you believe are sins.
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That doesn't mean that as one who believes himself to be Christian that I or other Christians should fight gay marriage or stand in the way or them getting married. There is a big difference.
Agreed.
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