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re: SEC baseball MVP???

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Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:01 pm to
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I don't really follow college baseball outside of prospects, but calling Renfroe a 5 tool guy is a stretch.


Renfroe's average has been around .400 all season that's what I call hitting for average. He is extremely athletic in the of, has a great arm (clocked at 95mph) runs great, and of course he's 3rd in the nation in HRs so that's power.

Looks like a 5 tool player to me.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:03 pm to
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Those two tools are just not good enough to call him a 5 tool guy imo.


Please tell us some examples of college or former SEC players you consider 5 tool players.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:07 pm to
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It's cool that Beede is 13-0 and all, but the dude sure does walk a crap ton of batters His K/BB is horrific


He has opposing batters hitting .167 against him and has an era of 1.73 both better than Nola, so he must be doing something right
Posted by DollaChoppa
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:08 pm to
I've never watched him, so all I can figure is he must work the corners Maddux style and sometimes he gets umps that f him over.
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 5:08 pm
Posted by A Gamecock
SC
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:08 pm to
Not him, but the most recent 5 tool guy to come out of the SEC was Jackie Bradley Jr.

Also Beede is the best pitcher in the SEC, no contest. He is flat out dominant.
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 5:09 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:14 pm to
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Not him, but the most recent 5 tool guy to come out of the SEC was Jackie Bradley Jr.



Uh, no. Power is not close to being good enough to be considered 5 tool. Speed is borderline as well.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:17 pm to
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Renfroe's average has been around .400 all season that's what I call hitting for average.


Once again, this is against college pitching. 5 tool guy is a .280 plus hitter at the big league level and Renfroe is not that.

Pitch recognition is a huge weakness.
Posted by jdog24116
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:20 pm to
5 tool college player. We not in the MLB yet buddy. He's young and still raw also. Scary upside.
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:22 pm to
I still can't believe Beede went to college.
Posted by safetyman
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:27 pm to
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Hunter Renfroe-Ms State .394 15 HR 51 RBI
Mason Katz-LSU .378 13 HR 63RBI


You can't go wrong with either one of these 2. Bregman is just not there yet.
Posted by crankbait
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:35 pm to
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Ill go with Hunter Renfroe. 5 tool stud. Top 30 pick in the draft.
And Bregman will win freshman of the year easily.



this looks highly likely
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:36 pm to
The fact that Kemp hasn't been mentioned after the OP is just a damn shame. He is the best player on the best team in the country. Y'all stress homeruns far too much, and Kemp's stellar defense can't be shown by stats. Even Cohen said he'd only vote Renfroe over Kemp because of bias.
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 5:53 pm
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:39 pm to
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Once again, this is against college pitching. 5 tool guy is a .280 plus hitter at the big league level and Renfroe is not that.


There aren't but a handful of D1 players batting over .400 this year most not in power conferences.

Does that mean none of the top player will hit over .280 in the majors SMH
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:42 pm to
It means Renfroe does not project as a high average guy at the next level because he has issues with pitch recognition.

What does his college average have to do with anything?
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:52 pm to
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It means Renfroe does not project as a high average guy at the next level because he has issues with pitch recognition. What does his college average have to do with anything?


Do you realize how Raw Renfroe is? He went to a small private school, didn't play travel ball, was a catcher in HS when he didn't pitch.

He has come as far in 3 years as any player I've seen come through Mississippi State in 10 years, and he will continue to get better and better.

He projected as a top 10-15 overall pick in the draft, and the scouts know a shite load more about baseball and Hunter's potential than you do.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:56 pm to
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He projected as a top 10-15 overall pick in the draft, and the scouts know a shite load more about baseball and Hunter's potential than you do.





If they know so much then why do they have him as a 35-40 hitter?
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 5:58 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25553 posts
Posted on 5/13/13 at 5:58 pm to
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I still can't believe Beede went to college.


Well he got shelled last year, so believe it.

I think it was a good move for him. Learned how to pitch.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 6:03 pm to
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If they know so much then why do they have him as a 35-40 hitter?


Who is "they"

LINK
This post was edited on 5/13/13 at 6:04 pm
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 6:07 pm to
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Who is "they"


Also, after that, tell us who "they" are, too.
Posted by Klongdawg
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/13/13 at 6:09 pm to
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volfan30


talking baseball, no wonder he's clueless as frick.
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