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Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:05 pm to tider04
You suck. I mean really. You have to know this.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:07 pm to tider04
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Way better than 1-15
I believe he was 2-14 with the dolphins in his debut season.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:09 pm to beatbammer
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he is working night and day to formulate a plan to destroy the HUNH
So the very thought of the HUNH keeps him up at night, eh?
Huh...
Isn't it obvious? Saban is just working on a burial site.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:09 pm to Sheetbend
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that is my point. In the past 4 or 5 years, Bama has had far superior offensive coordinators than LSU, but they don't now. The homerism on the RANT is very stifling at times.
We will see. Jury is out on Cameron. It's humorous how lsu fans somehow think he's some legendary Oc when he has been run out of almost every job he has held. Sort of like the hype about Mett from lsu fans last preseason. .Plus Saban will always trump miles and that will be enough to win more years than not regardless of coordinators.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:10 pm to omrebelfan20
quote:try again.
I believe he was 2-14 with the dolphins in his debut season.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:11 pm to Sheetbend
quote:Your welcome, but I also disagree with this. It didn't get much more vanilla that McElwain's offense. For instance, going into the BCS game 2011/2012 I'm pretty sure we averaged about 10 pts a game under LSU. Jordan Jefferson was just that good lol. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong on this I'm sure.
That is my point. In the past 4 or 5 years, Bama has had far superior offensive coordinators than LSU, but they don't now. The homerism on the RANT is very stifling at times.
Thanks for you straight forward opinon.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:13 pm to roadGator
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You suck. I mean really. You have to know this.
After the beatings Bama has handed the gators since 2009 I understand your frustration. We are not going anywhere. Get used to it.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:35 pm to tider04
quote:Irrelevant stat. Saban's final year at Miami was 6-9 which was worse than his first year--so what.
Cam Cameron is 1-15 as a head coach.
He was fired by the ravens. Irrelevant. Most of the best coaches in history have been fired at one time or the other.
And the trump factor even if none of that were true is the three crystal balls our staff has collected the last four years. That alone is a TKO. Also, irrelevant.
Nobody is saying Bama hasn't been superior to LSU in the past four years. However, the difference in superiority is not that much in terms of competitive performance against each other. Most games have been very close indeed.
With regard to the quality of the coaching staffs, each can make claims for their position coaches. Both Bama and LSU are acclaimed for producing high round NFL picks.
In my opinion, LSU has suffered from poorly designed offenses during Bama's dominate run over the past 4 years, and that is Les Miles' fault.
However, Miles got lucky with the Cameron hire, and this hire is much bigger than any of the Bama fans on here are aware of or will acknowledge--IMHO.
With Cam Cameron, LSU will now have a real NFL pro-style offense. Not only should their offensive stats improve, but their defensive stats should also improve with superior time of possession on offense.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:37 pm to Sheetbend
I love how you Gumps didn't even address my post about defensive schemes.
Read a book on football once in a while.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 10:52 pm to tider04
tider04 can you PLEASE list the different starting front sevens for the A&M and LSU games???? Really interested is seeing them.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:03 pm to 167back
quote:sure. Now remember that I said the front 7 would be different sans about 3 players. Front 7 vs lsu will look something like Stinson, ivory, pagan, Dickson, depriest, Mosley and Hubbard. Against tamu it may look something more like Stinson, pagan, Tomilson, devall, Mosley, Ragland and Hubbard(or maybe Allen). It's not a secret in Ttown that Saban is looking to essentially build two front sevens for the two styles of offense. And with 85 scholly players, why not? Saban is always on the cutting edge, this may be considered his next great move.
tider04 can you PLEASE list the different starting front sevens for the A&M and LSU games???? Really interested is seeing them.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:07 pm to tider04
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Way better than 1-15. Cameron also was a head coach at Indiana. Moron.
You gotta start somewhere dumbass! Saban started at Toledo <-- didn't know that was a "high profile" HC Job.
Cameron went 1-15 with Sabans Miami team that went 6-10 (a decline from the previous year) while under his watch.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:11 pm to WDE1980
quote:saban won the conference championship his first and only year at Toledo.
You gotta start somewhere dumbass! Saban started at Toledo <-- didn't know that was a "high profile" HC Job. Cameron went 1-15 with Sabans Miami team that went 6-10 (a decline from the previous year) while under his watch.
He also took a 1-15 dolphin team and went 8-8 his first year in the nfl. Cameron never dreamed of doing either of those things as a hc.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:15 pm to DGunter
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Your welcome, but I also disagree with this. It didn't get much more vanilla that McElwain's offense. For instance, going into the BCS game 2011/2012 I'm pretty sure we averaged about 10 pts a game under LSU. Jordan Jefferson was just that good lol. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong on this I'm sure.
What exactly is your point?
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:20 pm to Sheetbend
His point is that mcelwain was a decent but not great Oc.
This post was edited on 5/2/13 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:40 pm to BIG DADDY 73
Here are a couple more facts.
LSU/bama 3-3 in sec competition since saban arrived.
LSU '12 offense put up most yards ever on a saban coached bama "D".
LSU has outrushed bama headsup in four of six sec games. Twice tigers went over 200. bama's best was 176.
LSU held bama to 20 yards rushing in one game.
In three of those six games LSU had the most rush yards bama gave up in SEC in that season.
In saban's six years at bama only twice has the tide had a HARDER conference schedule than LSU. In those two seasons bama finished #4 and #5 in the west.
In same time frame LSU had the harder conference schedule three times, twice finished second and once third in the west.
LSU is the ONLY SEC school to have at least eight wins every season since '05. Miles first season in BR.
Those were just off the top of my head. Could probally find a few more to show why LSU is right up there with the tide.
LSU/bama 3-3 in sec competition since saban arrived.
LSU '12 offense put up most yards ever on a saban coached bama "D".
LSU has outrushed bama headsup in four of six sec games. Twice tigers went over 200. bama's best was 176.
LSU held bama to 20 yards rushing in one game.
In three of those six games LSU had the most rush yards bama gave up in SEC in that season.
In saban's six years at bama only twice has the tide had a HARDER conference schedule than LSU. In those two seasons bama finished #4 and #5 in the west.
In same time frame LSU had the harder conference schedule three times, twice finished second and once third in the west.
LSU is the ONLY SEC school to have at least eight wins every season since '05. Miles first season in BR.
Those were just off the top of my head. Could probally find a few more to show why LSU is right up there with the tide.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:40 pm to tider04
quote:Bama had a great OLs, great RBs, and a very good QB that improved each and every year.
His point is that mcelwain was a decent but not great Oc.
I don't know who was at the helm at LSU, but the design of the passing offense was horrible, and the QB play was even worse. The only thing LSU had was a good offensive line and a deep corps of RBs.
The defense and special teams at LSU were fantastic, but the passing offense was about as weak as an SEC passing attack can get.
Considering that, it is amazing how competitive LSU has been with Bama. I attribute that to their fantastic overall talent level, which had to be very similar to Bama's.
Posted on 5/2/13 at 11:45 pm to Sheetbend
Forgotone
FACT 5. In the future look for the aggies to have any open date request before bama game to be denied by SEC office.
Only way they get one is hopefully they can work out a deal with another team to move game.
FACT 5. In the future look for the aggies to have any open date request before bama game to be denied by SEC office.
Only way they get one is hopefully they can work out a deal with another team to move game.
Posted on 5/3/13 at 12:01 am to tider04
Cam Cameron was the WINNINGEST OC in the NFL over the last five seasons. I think that qualifies him as a pretty decent OC.
Being he was a college head coach and NFL head coach leads me to believe he was a hell of assistant coach at some time in his coaching career.
how successful was nuss as a head coach on any level?
How did nick's tenure as a NFL head coach turn out?
If saban is so universely better than Miles why are they 3-3 in SEC matchups?
If burns is so great as RB coach? Why has LSU outrushed them in four of our six SEC games since saban arrived at the capstone? Twice the tigers went over 200 yards on bama.
Being he was a college head coach and NFL head coach leads me to believe he was a hell of assistant coach at some time in his coaching career.
how successful was nuss as a head coach on any level?
How did nick's tenure as a NFL head coach turn out?
If saban is so universely better than Miles why are they 3-3 in SEC matchups?
If burns is so great as RB coach? Why has LSU outrushed them in four of our six SEC games since saban arrived at the capstone? Twice the tigers went over 200 yards on bama.
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