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re: All the Mizzou stuff on this board about "They suck" and "They regret coming to

Posted on 4/25/13 at 8:41 am to
Posted by reedus23
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 8:41 am to
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a) Can they deliver Saint Louis and Kansas City?

So far this is a no but that will not happen overnight


Curious what you base this on.

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b) Will interaction be more like the Cocks or the Hogs?

Sadly, so far they are more like the Hogs bluster than the Cocks under the radar approach


Agree about last year. I think they were humbled last year and you'll see the latter approach moving forward.

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c) Will they maintain the AAU status?


Any actual indication they will lose that status other than doom and gloom?

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d) Will they add a SEC sport to the SEC's collection of trophies?


I would agree, softball, of any of the sports, is the most likely in the short term. Solid team this year and I believe 2 of the nation's top pitchers coming in next year.
Posted by Cheese Grits
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Posted on 4/25/13 at 9:44 am to
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Curious what you base this on.


Notorious carriage rate battles in the past. With other college and pro teams in MO (speaking of fans and alumni as there is a high concentration of B1G alumni in Saint Louis and B12 folks in Kansas City) Mizzou does not have the same inelastic demand of say Bama or UK. This is not a knock on Mizzou specifically but more an acknowledgement that east and west coast media owners are more concerned about making dollars than being rah rah about school ties.

Adding Nebraska (with inelastic demand) put carriage rates in NE between 1.00 and 2.00 and was top in the BTN. In Maryland and New Jersey the BTN will not have such an easy sell. If current BTN carriage rates in MD and NJ are 5 cents the BTN may get a boost to 50 cents but they will not get the 1.00 to 2.00 dollars they could with Nebraska. In MO the Cardinals probably have the most inelastic demand and Mizzou may have the most elastic. In AL and MS I am gonna guess the SEC is the dominant brand in their markets.



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Agree about last year. I think they were humbled last year and you'll see the latter approach moving forward.


I really hope you are correct



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Any actual indication they will lose that status other than doom and gloom?


Mostly based on the observation that Delany is a ruthless bastard and it is in the interest of the B1G to discredit the SEC at any given opportunity. If Delany retires and is replaced by a moderate then I think the Tigers are safe.



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I would agree, softball, of any of the sports, is the most likely in the short term. Solid team this year and I believe 2 of the nation's top pitchers coming in next year.


Mizzou fans need to show up in force for the SEC tourney and really show up in the post season if they are not a regional site. NCAA looks at attendance numbers and that is a real strong point for the SEC. NCAA wants teams that sell tickets which makes it harder to leave SEC schools out because of their traveling fans.

UK basketball, SEC football, and SEC baseball all travel well. Mizzou needs to show they can move seats outside of their home venues for all sports and can sell solidly for at least 1 sport. Why else do you think the ACC added Louisville? Their football program is still not a proven commodity and their academics sure do not fit the ACC. Their big draw was Top 5 attendance numbers for both men's and women's basketball.

The easy tell is when Mizzou travels is it easy to get tickets or hard? Nobody expects them to sell like Bama football or UK basketball but they need to be respectable when they are invited so it looks good on both Mizzou and the SEC. The best indication of traveling fan strength is ticket prices for neutral sites. If I can pick up official NCAA tickets for Mizzou for 50 cents on the dollar it means they do not travel well. When Mizzou tickets for the NCAA in Rupp were selling for 10 bucks on the street with a Face Value of 100 bucks it tells me the market knows there is no demand. NCAA wants to make money and notices stuff like that.

Schools have to bid on hosting and they are not going to want teams that have little or no demand.
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