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Cohen still #believes in Woodruff.

Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:33 am
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11985 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:33 am
On Brandon Woodruff: "I believe a month from now or two months from now he could be pitching on the weekend for us and doing well."

I really hope this kid gets it figured out. Especially since he turned down a bunch of money to come play at State.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
Member since Dec 2010
36293 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:41 am to
I think it's a mental thing.
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:42 am to
He'll figure it out. His stuff is electric, he just needs to get some confidence back. They will let him throw a few easy innings and ease him back in and he will be fine.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Member since Sep 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:44 am to
His parents need to hire a sports psychologist. A lot of money on the line for the Woodruff family.
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
11985 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 10:53 am to
quote:

They will let him throw a few easy innings and ease him back in and he will be fine.


I don't know how much easier it can get than 2 SWAC opponents.

We really don't have anymore crap teams to trot him out against.
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 10:53 am
Posted by randystewart
Alexandria, VA
Member since Jul 2010
717 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 11:00 am to
Personally I think he should have come in to close out the Sunday LSU game when we were up by 8. Would have been a perfect situation to bring him in out of the pen for a potential confidence boost. He is clearly over thinking things when he starts.
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 11:39 am to
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Sunday LSU game when we were up by 8.


This.

We need to throw him a few times when we are up by a ton or down by a lot.

Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
6990 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 11:51 am to
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Sunday LSU game when we were up by 8.


I'm sorry, but I don't agree. He's failed to get out of the first inning against two straight SWAC opponents. Until he has a better outing, he shouldn't see the field to risk a guaranteed SEC win.
Posted by dawgM2
MS
Member since Jan 2013
4265 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

I think it's a mental thing.




It definitely is. From what I have heard, he looks good in the pen, but that obviously isn't translating into game performance. They need to let him throw some simulated games against hitters or something like that.


quote:

hire a sports psychologist



this 100%
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 1:53 pm to
I've played at a level above HS and I've coached HS and Semi-pro. And one thing I've never been able to understand is how someone with that much talent could struggle that much. I would have sold my soul for a 90 mph FB

Try having an 81 mph top end FB and see what it's like to have to get top level hitters like Pete Young and Tracy Echols out. That's when pitching is tough.

These kids grow up with better coaching and better conditioning than people did in my generation. Learn to control the baseball. It's not hard to figure out what you can make a baseball do and what you can't.
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 1:56 pm to
If only it were that easy.

There is more to it than that, as you can see Jamie Moyer getting big league hitters out and some guys who blow 100 never sniff the bigs.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 3:27 pm to
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If only it were that easy.


Thats what I dont understand. It is that easy. Like Shaq being unable to make free throws- its just ridiculous.

If you are having trouble with mechanics- work on those until you perfect them. Balance, arm swing, drive step, landing spot, etc...whatever it is. Not all players are willing to put the time in to make it 2nd nature to them.

Too many FB pitchers get to HS and even college without a decent breaking ball. Why? They never needed it growing up. They didnt spend hours and hours seeing what they can make the ball do with different grips. They just blew it by people.

If you have control problems you simply havent worked enough, or you are a mental midget.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100255 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 3:28 pm to
It's all about placement and movement, and strategy to where hitters don't know what you're about to throw. Being able to mix it up and consistently throw strikes and have a formidable fast ball. DOesn't have to be 90+ mph.
Posted by engie
Member since Jan 2012
8953 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 3:38 pm to
Woodruff certainly doesn't have a problem with his breaking ball -- maybe locating it -- but it's about as sharp of a 1-7 breaker as I've seen at the collegiate level when he's on...

He's just mental right now -- and he's overthrowing because his arm action hasn't come back from the tender elbow yet... As it warms up, his arm should come back, and I expect him to be back in the next few weeks. Needs to spend some time in the bullpen pitching with a big lead and no real pressure(assuming we have any big leads over the next couple of weeks, which is asking alot with how Austin Peay, South Alabama, and OM have looked)...
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 3:40 pm
Posted by dawgM2
MS
Member since Jan 2013
4265 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 4:06 pm to
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and he's overthrowing



I watched some of the film and this is one of his main problems. His front side flies open too quickly causing his arm to drag. Not only does this negatively affect his control, it also adds stress to his shoulder and elbow, and can cause future injury and may be what caused his injury in the first place.

I don't doubt they break down his film with him and show him what he is doing wrong, but this can be a difficult problem to fix. Hopefully he can get things turned around.
Posted by schlow mo
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2010
5245 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 4:09 pm to
Haha so in your mind if you can throw 92-94 there is no excuse for not being in the bigs.

It just doesn't work like that.

Hell I could throw 90 and I'm not in the bigs, am I just a mental midget.
Posted by dawgM2
MS
Member since Jan 2013
4265 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 5:34 pm to
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*misread your post
This post was edited on 3/21/13 at 5:35 pm
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

His front side flies open too quickly causing his arm to drag. Not only does this negatively affect his control, it also adds stress to his shoulder and elbow, and can cause future injury and may be what caused his injury in the first place.


100% correct...as I said- mechanics problem that needs to be corrected. Your body has to be in sync
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 6:48 pm to
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so in your mind if you can throw 92-94 there is no excuse for not being in the bigs.



yes- arm injury would be the only excuse

92-94 = MLB talent

So if you have ML talent, but dont make it- then unless injured, you have no excuse.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
22105 posts
Posted on 3/21/13 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

Personally I think he should have come in to close out the Sunday LSU game when we were up by 8. Would have been a perfect situation to bring him in out of the pen for a potential confidence boost. He is clearly over thinking things when he starts.


He would have had LSU back in it by his 12th pitch
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