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Posted on 3/4/13 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 6:34 pm to
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LSU wasn't anywhere close to an elite program until Saban arrived. You have a few years of success, and suddenly all LSU fans think their football program is as historically relevant as Alabama.


More relevant than A&M and that was before Saban.

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As I said already, our recruiting guys have spoken to our coaches and stated clearly that they have DSG rated higher because if on field performance. This isn't an opinion, it is a FACT.


I will take our coaches style every single day as it has produced 2 top 5 draft picks, 2 thorpe award winners, 1 Heisman finalist, 4 draft picks in the past 3 years, with a borderline 1st round and 4-5 round guy coming in this year. All of which played in one secondary.

Game tape can lie as the elite athletes are going against guys who will never make it past the friday night lights. Camp performance is against the best of the best around the country. Our coaches since Chavis and Frank Wilson have joined the staff have put a large emphasis on camp performance.

Every site has Ed Paris ranked significantly higher than DSG. The kids a 3 star on scout (nothing wrong with that at all). DSG may end up being better, but all current signs point to Paris. Surely you can understand why people think you are being a homer.
This post was edited on 3/4/13 at 7:32 pm
Posted by we_geaux_harder
alexandria
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 7:17 pm to
Guys it sums up to this, whenever both brown and Paris showed interest in LSU, they were thrown under the buss by ATM fans to make themselves feel better. But if the aggies are right, then we'll find out in about 3 years.
Posted by StrickAggie06
College Station
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 7:37 pm to
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More relevant than A&M and that was before Saban.


Please. LSU pre-Saban wasn't any more of an elite program than A&M, and A&M was much more successful than LSU for the 15 years prior to his arrival. Keep pretending your Alabama though if it makes yourself feel better.

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I will take our coaches style every single day as it has produced 2 top 5 draft picks, 2 thorpe award winners, 1 Heisman finalist, 4 draft picks in the past 2 years, with a borderline 1st round and 4-5 round guy coming in this year. All of which played in one secondary.


Are all LSU fans incapable of reading comprehension? No one is questioning whether LSU can evaluate DB talent or saying that Paris won't be successful at LSU. Again, show me where Miles or the other LSU coaches said they have Paris rated higher. As LSU has offered both, you don't know who the LSU staff has rated higher.

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Game tape can lie as the elite athletes are going against guys who will never make it past the friday night lights. Camp performance is against the best of the best around the country. Our coaches since Chavis and Frank Wilson have joined the staff have put a large emphasis on camp performance.


There is nothing wrong with performing well in camps. The problem is that camps don't include pads, and when a camp warrior doesn't back it up on the field it raises questions. Paris' junior film doesn't live up to the hype. As I've pointed out multiple times already, he gets burned several times in those highlights and gets bailed out by horribly underthrown balls.

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Every site has Ed Paris ranked significantly higher than DSG. The kids a 3 star on scout (nothing wrong with that at all). DSG may end up being better, but all current signs point to Paris. Surely you can understand why people think you are being a homer.


Of course the sites have Paris rated higher; he started varsity as a freshman and blew up the camp circuit prior to his junior year, whereas DSG was a relative unknown prior to a few months ago with his junior year the first for him to play varsity. In addition, there was another D1 safety prospect on his team in the 2013 class, which I'm sure didn't help his ranking out.

Scout is a joke for having DSG as a 3*, and I'm sure that will be remedied in the near future. If Paris doesn't perform better his senior year, and DSG continues to impress, don't be surprised to see those rankings change significantly. Both should end up as good players, but I'm perfectly fine with taking the guy that has better junior film and whom our coaches have rated higher (and possibly the LSU coaches as well). In the end we won't know for sure for a few years until these kids get on the field at the college level.
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