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re: Realignment...B1G going after 2 more ACC schools?
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:21 pm to BossaGator
Posted on 2/20/13 at 1:21 pm to BossaGator
I agree with you.
I think it would be somewhat of a let down to miss out on UNC, but also a let down to miss out on the Virginia market. It's a tough decision, but here is how I would prioritize it, based on the programs and markets available:
1. UNC and VT -- In my opinion this would maximize the SEC's footprint WHILE providing the best quality athletic programs available.
2. UNC and UVA -- Virginia doesn't care about sports as much as they should or did in the past, but maybe a move to the SEC would renew their commitment and excite the fan base. We still get both VA and NC markets.
3. NC State and VT -- NC State is not great in athletics, but not completely terrible either. Maybe the coupling with the SEC lifts their brand like it did for A&M. SEC still gets the NC markets.
4. NC State and UVA -- Not quite as "sexy" as version #3, but still workable. SEC still get's both markets.
5. UNC and Dook -- Both these programs have huge, national fan bases in basketball. While the VA market remains untapped, it could be a wash in terms of overall athletic interest and footprint. Still, football is king, and these two are queens, so it would not be as big an addition as two football schools. Maybe the SEC will lift their football programs to a respectable level or at least give UGA/USCe/UF another couple of whipping boys.
5. FSU and VT -- This is a really no-go. Florida would be making a HUGE concession by agreeing to lose the SEC monopoly in FL. If they opposed it, you can bet that A&M, USCe, and probably UK will be in their corner. The move is not as good as adding BOTH NC and VA markets, but purely from an excitement standpoint, this would be a good combo.
6. FSU and UNC -- Not going to happen, and not quite as good from an excitement standpoint.
7. Clemson and VT -- Same as with FSU. Probably enough other schools will vote against it. It's not even close to optimal in terms of increasing the footprint. At least FL has a lot more TVs to add. If we're not going to add good markets, add a better football brand and go with FSU.
8. Clemson and NC State -- Not as sexy as above.
9. Clemson and UVA -- No as sexy as 8
10. Clemson and FSU -- Very sexy in terms of interest, but adds NOTHING or very little to the footprint.
11. VT and UVA -- This is somewhat meh on both fronts, but more likely than adding any combination that includes Clemson or FSU.
12. OU and (in order of best to worst on both footprint and fan interest: VT, UNC, UVA, NC State, FSU, Clemson) -- Oklahoma is a small, shitty state with very little in terms of footprint.
13. The fricking Longhorns and (frick it, anybody) -- I will try to put aside my personal feelings toward the burnt-orange buttpirates....trying....really....hard.....
It would be a good "interest" move, but even less likely than FSU or Clemson. The voting block against it would be A&M, Missouri, Arkansas, LSU, Florida, USCe, Kentucky, and probably at least Alabama or Tennessee. These arrogant fricks have made enemies all over the globe and have PROVEN time and again to be the shittiest of business partners.
Best adds in terms of pure interest:
1. FSU
2. The fricking Longhorns
3. VT
4. OU
5. Clemson
6. UNC
7. UVA
8. NC State
Footprint expansion:
1. UNC
2. VT
3. UVA
4. NC State
5. OU
6. The fricking Longhorns
7. Clemson
I think it would be somewhat of a let down to miss out on UNC, but also a let down to miss out on the Virginia market. It's a tough decision, but here is how I would prioritize it, based on the programs and markets available:
1. UNC and VT -- In my opinion this would maximize the SEC's footprint WHILE providing the best quality athletic programs available.
2. UNC and UVA -- Virginia doesn't care about sports as much as they should or did in the past, but maybe a move to the SEC would renew their commitment and excite the fan base. We still get both VA and NC markets.
3. NC State and VT -- NC State is not great in athletics, but not completely terrible either. Maybe the coupling with the SEC lifts their brand like it did for A&M. SEC still gets the NC markets.
4. NC State and UVA -- Not quite as "sexy" as version #3, but still workable. SEC still get's both markets.
5. UNC and Dook -- Both these programs have huge, national fan bases in basketball. While the VA market remains untapped, it could be a wash in terms of overall athletic interest and footprint. Still, football is king, and these two are queens, so it would not be as big an addition as two football schools. Maybe the SEC will lift their football programs to a respectable level or at least give UGA/USCe/UF another couple of whipping boys.
5. FSU and VT -- This is a really no-go. Florida would be making a HUGE concession by agreeing to lose the SEC monopoly in FL. If they opposed it, you can bet that A&M, USCe, and probably UK will be in their corner. The move is not as good as adding BOTH NC and VA markets, but purely from an excitement standpoint, this would be a good combo.
6. FSU and UNC -- Not going to happen, and not quite as good from an excitement standpoint.
7. Clemson and VT -- Same as with FSU. Probably enough other schools will vote against it. It's not even close to optimal in terms of increasing the footprint. At least FL has a lot more TVs to add. If we're not going to add good markets, add a better football brand and go with FSU.
8. Clemson and NC State -- Not as sexy as above.
9. Clemson and UVA -- No as sexy as 8
10. Clemson and FSU -- Very sexy in terms of interest, but adds NOTHING or very little to the footprint.
11. VT and UVA -- This is somewhat meh on both fronts, but more likely than adding any combination that includes Clemson or FSU.
12. OU and (in order of best to worst on both footprint and fan interest: VT, UNC, UVA, NC State, FSU, Clemson) -- Oklahoma is a small, shitty state with very little in terms of footprint.
13. The fricking Longhorns and (frick it, anybody) -- I will try to put aside my personal feelings toward the burnt-orange buttpirates....trying....really....hard.....
It would be a good "interest" move, but even less likely than FSU or Clemson. The voting block against it would be A&M, Missouri, Arkansas, LSU, Florida, USCe, Kentucky, and probably at least Alabama or Tennessee. These arrogant fricks have made enemies all over the globe and have PROVEN time and again to be the shittiest of business partners.
Best adds in terms of pure interest:
1. FSU
2. The fricking Longhorns
3. VT
4. OU
5. Clemson
6. UNC
7. UVA
8. NC State
Footprint expansion:
1. UNC
2. VT
3. UVA
4. NC State
5. OU
6. The fricking Longhorns
7. Clemson
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Posted on 2/20/13 at 2:31 pm to KaiserSoze99
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I agree with you.
I think it would be somewhat of a let down to miss out on UNC, but also a let down to miss out on the Virginia market. It's a tough decision, but here is how I would prioritize it, based on the programs and markets available:
Great post. I'm being a bit harsh on UVA. I find them snooty, obnoxious, and somewhat pussified in general but the truth is they'd be a great get for either conference. UNC and UVA to the SEC would be pretty epic. If the SEC were to end up with NC State my hope is that NC State buries UNC football forever. With the right moves and preparation (following A&M's lead) it could be done. Not to imply that A&M has buried Texas football, although it may help bury MAck Brown Texas Football. But you know what I mean. Take all the best NC recruits, gather bigger donations, have bigger games, and generally relegate UNC into obscurity in football.
But I still hope UNC joins the SEC first. If so IMO it will inevitably do that to NC State.
Posted on 2/20/13 at 4:32 pm to KaiserSoze99
I think if either UNC or NC State came to the SEC their football teams would instantly see an improvement. North Carolina produces good football players, their teams just never seem to be as good as they should be.
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