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I've never really been down on Mark Fox, but I've always kinda had the mindset

Posted on 2/13/13 at 8:26 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 2/13/13 at 8:26 am
of "who would we get better if we fired him". And, on the face of it he's not doing THAT bad of a job, certainly not terrible. But the more this season goes on, I'm about to wash my hands of him if he doesn't stop the absolutely moronic, senseless, STUPID arse substitution patterns that he does every game. It's to the point where I almost wish Mcgarity would fire him on the spot next time he does this shite. None of us are there to watch practice everyday, I get that, but we can watch the games and the games are all that matter.

-Dixon should never see the court, period. Dude is terrible. Florveus had a solid first half against aTm, which doesn't say too much, but overall is not good. John Cannon is a guy that isn't physically gonna wow anybody, but all the guy does is produce. He's a rebounding machine and is FAR, FAR more capable of scoring than those other 2. Yet he never sees the floor! I don't even think he played at all yesterday! For some reason florveus continues to get the bulk of the minutes. WHY FOX, WHY?

-Kenny Gaines is a baller and is one of the best players on the team. Fox clearly doesn't like him (he's made several comments including to the media about how stubborn and hard headed he is, and you could read his lips last game saying not to shoot the fricking ball so much), but the guy is a MUCH better answer at the 2 than brantley. Brantley does 1 thing and 1 thing only, shoot 3s. That's great if they're going in, but if they're not than he's worthless and just taking up space. His passes are lackadaisical, he can't dribble, can't drive, nothing. Yesterday Gaines hit a 3 then was immediately taken out of the game!

-Mann is really starting to come on strong. Our starting lineup should be:

1 Mann/Williams
2 Gaines/KCP
3 KCP/Nemi
4 Morris
5 Cannon

That is the most capable lineup of actually scoring, which should kind of be a priority in the game of basketball. Dixon, Florveus, D Williams, Brantley don't really provide a threat to score. Nemi is up and down, but he serves his role. And unlike many of the others he can actually catch the ball in traffic and make a post move. Morris is really starting to impress me too, I like his minutes. But it is absolutely maddening to watch shitty players get the bulk of the PT, while clearly much better players sit the bench all game. Then when one of the players that isn't Fox's favorite comes in for a few and is productive and makes a play, he immediately yanks them out. I don't care if we go to the sweet 16 this year, I've about had it up to hear with that shite. Because that's not something like a few recruiting misses or players missing free throws that can be rectified, that's just who he is and we're stuck with it.
This post was edited on 2/13/13 at 8:28 am
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26185 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 8:58 am to
Didn't read it but since we agree on most everything, I'll tend to agree...
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90072 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 9:04 am to
lol. Yeah it was a little long but I wanted to get that off my chest. I would hope most people would agree.
Posted by bulldawger
Fish Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2010
3051 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 9:41 am to
I believe Fox is a really good coach in all ways other than the majority of players he signs.

UGA needs a Pied Piper at the helm to attract players, and unfortunately it hasn't been him.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90072 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 9:56 am to
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I believe Fox is a really good coach in all ways other than the majority of players he signs


His subbing patterns are without question, by far his biggest area of fail. True he has recruited at a subpar rate, but some of the people we have on the roster are good enough win. If he didn't sub like a complete dumbass we would have 5+ more wins this year than we do. We would've won yesterday as well IMO.

If KCP, VWilliams, Gaines, Mann, Morris, Nemi, and Cannon got the overwhelming majority of the minutes we would be looking at possible NCAAT bids. But Brantley, Florveus, Dixon, and DWilliams continuing to eat minutes at an alarming rate have ensured that won't happen.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:28 am to
Fox appears to be doing slightly more with less. The less part is the problem. He needs to recruit better or move on.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16262 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:35 am to
Fox won't play AAU game which is, supposedly, very dirty. I can applaud his desire to stay out of the muck, but it might cost him his job in the long run.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90072 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:36 am to
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Fox appears to be doing slightly more with less


And that's ok, but he would be doing MUCH more if we would quit playing the damn "less" and stick with the 7 or so guys that are actually competent. Simply put, there is no justifiable reason at all for Dixon to be on the floor unless we're in major foul trouble or up/down by 30. Florveus is only slightly better. What's so perplexing is that it's not like we have 5 guys at one position and they all suck so he's just picking 1, it's that the guys on the bench (Gaines, Cannon) have CLEARLY PROVEN that they are better than the people actually getting PT. Look at the numbers. Look at the stats. Look at how we play with them in the game and without. It's obvious to everyone watching this damn team except for Fox.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90072 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 10:46 am to
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Fox won't play AAU game


This is true, but from what I've heard he doesn't mind playing it. He's just been given strict orders not to.

We can debate recruiting and AAU all day, but that's not the issue. We may not have very good talent on the roster, but it is what it is. But at the VERY least, we can maximize our chances to win by putting the best 6 or 7 guys on the court we can. Instead we go 10 or 11 deep per game and we're playing scrubs who probably wouldn't start at georgia southern. That is 100% on fox.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:26 am to
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Look at the numbers. Look at the stats. Look at how we play with them in the game and without. It's obvious to everyone watching this damn team except for Fox.



I can conclude 1 or 2 things:
1. The guys that he isn't playing more are in the dawghouse or aren't practicing well.
2. He's forcing a 10 man rotation thinking that in the long run having more fresh and experienced players will pay off.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90072 posts
Posted on 2/13/13 at 11:40 am to
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I can conclude 1 or 2 things:
1. The guys that he isn't playing more are in the dawghouse or aren't practicing well


The doghouse for the entire year? 4 months now? You dont' sit someone that long to "prove a point", when your job is to win games. And like I said some of these guys may be beasts in practice, but practice doesn't mean shite. Games matter, and anyone who's been watching can see who should play and who shouldn't.

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2. He's forcing a 10 man rotation thinking that in the long run having more fresh and experienced players will pay off


Totally stupid. Why does it matter if your whole team is fresh in March if your record sucks and you aren't playing anymore? I'd rather wear out 7 guys and make the postseason and fizzle out then look like dogshit and not make anything. It's one thing if you have 10 guys that all bring something similar to the table and there isn't a lot of separation between them. But Cannon and Gaines are light years ahead of Flo/Dixon/Brantley and that is obvious by watching this team play.

I simply think Fox is either stubborn as a damn mule, or he isn't very smart. I'm not saying he's not basketball smart, because he has more basketball knowledge in his pinky fingernail than I'll ever acquire in my life, but he is clearly not seeing what every UGA fan watching this team can see. Either he doesn't see it (he's dumb) or he sees it and refuses to correct it (stubborn). Either scenario is awful for UGA basketball.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
6331 posts
Posted on 2/14/13 at 5:17 pm to
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Dixon should never see the court, period. Dude is terrible. Florveus had a solid first half against aTm, which doesn't say too much, but overall is not good. John Cannon is a guy that isn't physically gonna wow anybody, but all the guy does is produce. He's a rebounding machine and is FAR, FAR more capable of scoring than those other 2. Yet he never sees the floor! I don't even think he played at all yesterday! For some reason florveus continues to get the bulk of the minutes. WHY FOX, WHY?


Everybody plays, everybody wins...well, ok, loses. Point being, there are participation trophies to hand out!
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