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re: Kelly is the best coach Saban will have faced all year

Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:28 pm to
Sumlin had Houston playing for a BCS game. And, it's very likely A&M will be in a BCS game next year. Sumlin isn't taking a back seat to no coach not named Saban.
Posted by PorkyPig
Levy, AR
Member since Apr 2011
170 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:29 pm to
bullshite.

John L. is tons better.

Refs fricked us.
Posted by Tide_in_Tally
Tally
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:36 pm to
with a chance at an undefeated season last year Houston was blown out at home by Southern Miss.

He's fortunate to have had Case Keenum and, so far, Manziel.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9824 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 1:44 pm to
Manziel is great. No doubt about that. But, someone has to put great players in situations they can flourish in. A good coach creates those situations. We all know coaches who don't create those situations; some of those coaches have even won BCS championships.
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
3039 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:06 pm to
sumlin is best followed by Kelly.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:13 pm to
Is he better than Sumlin? JFF is great but the staff put him to use, A&M was 7-6 last year, with the rep of folding in 2nd half, and the D has by and large been pretty good.
Posted by jfran23
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
1339 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:20 pm to
What about Sumlin
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:21 pm to
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He's fortunate to have had Case Keenum and, so far, Manziel.


And Drew Bledsoe, and Drew Brees, and Jason White, and Sam Bradford...

Hmmm... you really think anyone on earth is THAT lucky? Maybe it's a little more than luck? He's already proven via the Cotton Bowl (where our offensive play-calling looked the best it has all year) that Kliff Kingsbury had nothing to do with our success.
Posted by SLC
Hiwasse, AR
Member since Oct 2007
15522 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:22 pm to
True.
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18045 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:23 pm to
I think Kelly's good, he hasn't proven that he's great yet.We'll know more about how good of a coach after Monday night.I'll reserve judgement til then.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:25 pm to
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And Drew Bledsoe, and Drew Brees, and Jason White, and Sam Bradford...

Sumlin seems to be the constant...not the QB at the particular time. Great coach.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:40 pm to
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Manziel is great. No doubt about that. But, someone has to put great players in situations they can flourish in. A good coach creates those situations.


For example, look no further than A&M itself. In his last stop at A&M, in 2002, Kevin Sumlin was offensive coordinator when A&M upset then #1 OU with a freshman QB name Reggie McNeal - who was faster than Vince Young and had a much better arm - in large part by utilizing the passing game. The next year, Fran the Fraud took over, turned Reggie (who was happier and better suited as a passer who made use of his legs on broken plays) into an option battering ram, and proceeded to destroy the program for a decade. The talent is there at a lot of places - a poor coach can squander it more easily than a good coach can build his career on it.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
4577 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:43 pm to
How do you define best coach? He was a damn good coach for Cincinnati and he's had one great year at Notre Dame. You got to take the Mad Hatter until CBK wins a "ship".
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 2:53 pm to
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What the hell has Freeze or Kelly accomplished to make one believe they're better coaches than Sumlin?!

At Notre Dame it looks like the DC is carrying the team. And, Freeze?! C'mon.


Kelly has won everywhere he has been and he is one game away from a possible bcsnc. Freeze turned around the worst team in the conference into a team that could have played with anyone in the country at the end of the season. Freeze was one break or two away from beating A&M and LSU.

That said, I think Sumlin is a great coach. The sky will be the limit for that program for the foreseeable future.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27158 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:26 pm to
False. Kelly has done a good job, but bowl performances by Purdue, Pitt, USC, and Oklahoma have destroyed the myth of ND's allegedly tough schedule.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
27158 posts
Posted on 1/6/13 at 3:27 pm to
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bama1959
Kelly is the best coach Saban will have faced all year
How do you define best coach? He was a damn good coach for Cincinnati and he's had one great year at Notre Dame. You got to take the Mad Hatter until CBK wins a "ship".


So do we also have to put Chiziki ahead of Kelly?
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