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re: SEC conference titles revisited
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:44 am to RollTide1987
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:44 am to RollTide1987
You know, thinking about it, the "napkin signing" is sorta the urban legend about the Stallings probation. It was a LOT more than that, Stallings covered stuff up, players got paid etc.
But the urban legend is "langham signed a napkin and stallings kicked some ncaa investigators out of his office".
It is sorta interesting to contrast that with AU's probation under Dye.
Urban legend is Dye was busted for paying players, the 60 minute tapes had evidence of Dye admitting to paying players and gauranteeing loans for them, and Dye told players to "keep it down home cuz".
In reality the tapes did not implicate Dye. The Only recording that involved Dye was Ramsey asking for help getting a loan and Dye not saying much of anything, just listening. And Blakeney, the WR coach said keep it down home cuz. And the probation was not for paying players. It was for Colonial bank giving loans to a handful of players based on their future earnings potential in the NFL.
I think the alabama media being primarily composed of bama grads (due to bama being the only school in the state with a journalism department and program), has played a role in softening the reporting on one while going the other direction on the other.
But the urban legend is "langham signed a napkin and stallings kicked some ncaa investigators out of his office".
It is sorta interesting to contrast that with AU's probation under Dye.
Urban legend is Dye was busted for paying players, the 60 minute tapes had evidence of Dye admitting to paying players and gauranteeing loans for them, and Dye told players to "keep it down home cuz".
In reality the tapes did not implicate Dye. The Only recording that involved Dye was Ramsey asking for help getting a loan and Dye not saying much of anything, just listening. And Blakeney, the WR coach said keep it down home cuz. And the probation was not for paying players. It was for Colonial bank giving loans to a handful of players based on their future earnings potential in the NFL.
I think the alabama media being primarily composed of bama grads (due to bama being the only school in the state with a journalism department and program), has played a role in softening the reporting on one while going the other direction on the other.
This post was edited on 11/30/12 at 8:47 am
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:50 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
84 Gators were awesome. Charlie Pell had cheated his arse of though LSU took their spot in the Sugar Bowl that year....
Posted on 11/30/12 at 8:50 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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It was a LOT more than that, Stallings covered stuff up, players got paid etc.
Whether this is true or not that's not what the NCAA busted Alabama for. It had everything to do with Antonio Langham. And yes, Stallings was very hard on the NCAA investigators. This has been confirmed by people who were actually present. Stallings has come out and said in recent years had he known how serious the nature of the allegations were, he might have been a little more patient.
The NCAA forfeited every single game Langham played in in 1993. The only one they didn't forfeit was the bowl game, a game in which he did not play in. So if the investigation was about more than just Langham, the NCAA sure didn't act like it when they passed final judgment.
This post was edited on 11/30/12 at 8:52 am
Posted on 11/30/12 at 9:12 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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You know, thinking about it, the "napkin signing" is sorta the urban legend about the Stallings probation. It was a LOT more than that, Stallings covered stuff up, players got paid etc.
But the urban legend is "langham signed a napkin and stallings kicked some ncaa investigators out of his office".
It is sorta interesting to contrast that with AU's probation under Dye.
Urban legend is Dye was busted for paying players, the 60 minute tapes had evidence of Dye admitting to paying players and gauranteeing loans for them, and Dye told players to "keep it down home cuz".
In reality the tapes did not implicate Dye. The Only recording that involved Dye was Ramsey asking for help getting a loan and Dye not saying much of anything, just listening. And Blakeney, the WR coach said keep it down home cuz. And the probation was not for paying players. It was for Colonial bank giving loans to a handful of players based on their future earnings potential in the NFL.
I think the alabama media being primarily composed of bama grads (due to bama being the only school in the state with a journalism department and program), has played a role in softening the reporting on one while going the other direction on the other.
There's also the whole interview with Terry Bowden deal in which he outlined the payment system to players that Dye instituted and was running rampant when he took the AU job. Very nice read and great insight in to just how far the AU program had become corrupt. Coaches on staff, not rogue boosters, paying players.
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