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Andy Reid talk needs to stop
Posted on 11/25/12 at 1:00 am
Posted on 11/25/12 at 1:00 am
Really guys (and gals)? Really?
Mizzou's next coach needs to be under 50, someone that can hopefully be here for a long time. I guess 10 years is a good tenure (if he coached till 65), but I think they'll go for someone younger, someone that might be here for 15 plus years if all goes well.
The only way we take someone older than 50 is if we desperately need to save the program. We're not at that point (yet).
I personally don't think this is relevant, but Andy Reid didn't do to well controlling his own son, I'm not sure putting him in charge of 100 kids is going to be received well by the administration. It may really be irrelevant in how he manages a football team, but it's apart of the perception. Andy Reid is more of an NFL guy, imo.
Mizzou's next coach needs to be under 50, someone that can hopefully be here for a long time. I guess 10 years is a good tenure (if he coached till 65), but I think they'll go for someone younger, someone that might be here for 15 plus years if all goes well.
The only way we take someone older than 50 is if we desperately need to save the program. We're not at that point (yet).
I personally don't think this is relevant, but Andy Reid didn't do to well controlling his own son, I'm not sure putting him in charge of 100 kids is going to be received well by the administration. It may really be irrelevant in how he manages a football team, but it's apart of the perception. Andy Reid is more of an NFL guy, imo.
This post was edited on 11/25/12 at 1:03 am
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 1:06 am to mograyback
Honestly, if Andy Reid wanted the job, age wouldnt be an obstacle whatsoever.
Who do you want though? I would be happy with Kirby Smart or Charlie Strong, but Andy is the miracle option.
Who do you want though? I would be happy with Kirby Smart or Charlie Strong, but Andy is the miracle option.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 1:15 am to Stripes314
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Honestly, if Andy Reid wanted the job, age wouldnt be an obstacle whatsoever.
Who do you want though? I would be happy with Kirby Smart or Charlie Strong, but Andy is the miracle option.
I agree that the job would be his if he wanted it, I just don't know if that's the proper move.. maybe I'm too attached to this trend for younger coaches. I want one of these highly touted younger guys with a tie to the south.
Kirby Smart I most definitely want, just don't think he will go anywhere that isn't an elite program.
I wouldn't complain about Strong at all, but think he'll be picked up by the time we switch out our HC.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 8:40 am to mograyback
As stated, I think Pinkel deserves another year, but I have fallen into the same category as Kilo. That is, if he doesn't make some significant changes, it's time for him to go.
If it is time to move on, Charlie Strong would be a wise choice for Mizzou. Great coach with SEC ties, which is exactly what we need. Alden better move fast on him to find out if there is any mutual interest as he will be a hot commodity in the SEC coaching searches.
If it is time to move on, Charlie Strong would be a wise choice for Mizzou. Great coach with SEC ties, which is exactly what we need. Alden better move fast on him to find out if there is any mutual interest as he will be a hot commodity in the SEC coaching searches.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 9:03 am to Mizzou4ever
Gotta think Strong would go to Arkansas before Mizzou.
I retract my point on Andy Reid, I guess he's not too old (but very close).
Strong is 52, Reid is 54.. so not much difference.
I retract my point on Andy Reid, I guess he's not too old (but very close).
Strong is 52, Reid is 54.. so not much difference.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:08 am to mograyback
I would think Reid would bring alot to Mizzou. He would be a former NFL head coach, and I think that alone would entice some recruits in itself. The other thing is, I don't know why he would want to come back here.
A good young assistant would make a good target for a HC job here. Why do you think this Strong guy would pick Arkansas over Mizzou?
A good young assistant would make a good target for a HC job here. Why do you think this Strong guy would pick Arkansas over Mizzou?
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:22 am to jafo
I wouldn't have a problem with Reid. I just think Strong having solid SEC ties and being a damn good coach should be very high on the coaching search totem pole if Gary walks.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 10:38 am to mograyback
Andy Reid? The guy is about to get fired for a reason. His play calling is more frustrating than Yost. The guy REFUSES to run the ball.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:06 am to jafo
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Why do you think this Strong guy would pick Arkansas over Mizzou?
Mostly because he's from Arkansas, and went to school in the state (although not U of Ark).
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:13 am to mograyback
I think we're best off with Pinkel for now, aside from the fact that is was one bad season amongst many good ones, there is too much competition for coaching hires right now: Auburn, Arkansas, Kentucky, UT all need one.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:00 pm to BreakawayZou83
I disagree somewhat, I think that it's kind of a bad reason to hold on to a coach, "Just because there is a lot of competition for head coaches". If we go through another 5 win or less season with Pinkel next year, it could potentially set us back another 5-7 years as a program...think Larry Smith.
That being said I highly doubt Pinks is gone unless he really is as burned out as he appears on TV. He honestly just looked like a spectator on the sidelines yesterday with ZERO emotion. Pinkel has done some good things but lets be honest we really only made 1 real bowl game in his entire tenure. The rest of our bowl seasons were spent in El Paso, Shreveport, Tempe and San Antonio. These were all bowls that didn't exist when Dan Devine was here
That being said I highly doubt Pinks is gone unless he really is as burned out as he appears on TV. He honestly just looked like a spectator on the sidelines yesterday with ZERO emotion. Pinkel has done some good things but lets be honest we really only made 1 real bowl game in his entire tenure. The rest of our bowl seasons were spent in El Paso, Shreveport, Tempe and San Antonio. These were all bowls that didn't exist when Dan Devine was here
Posted on 11/25/12 at 12:05 pm to BreakawayZou83
Many good ones?
2007, 2008, and 2010. That is it out of 12.
2007, 2008, and 2010. That is it out of 12.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 1:03 pm to Stripes314
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Many good ones?
Just by comparison to what our program was before Pinkel arrived... one winning season in 20 years?
Posted on 11/25/12 at 1:11 pm to BreakawayZou83
Fair enough. I see what your standard for judging it now was.
For the record, I consider seasons that you end ranked in as good years (9+ Wins)
For the record, I consider seasons that you end ranked in as good years (9+ Wins)
Posted on 11/25/12 at 2:12 pm to Stripes314
I think 8 wins this year would've been considered a really good year
Posted on 11/25/12 at 4:01 pm to URHatinIt
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I think 8 wins this year would've been considered a really good year
In context yes it would. But if I am taking a look back in history is what I was referring to. I would have been pretty happy with 8-4, and building on that going into next year. But 20 years from now, you would look back and that wouldnt look that special. That is what I am referring to. We have 3 standout years that you can look back on in the future.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 4:56 pm to URHatinIt
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I think 8 wins this year would've been considered a really good year
8 would have been really good. 7 wins is what should have happened and I don't think that was asking a lot...just Vandy and Syracuse. The problem as I see it was deeper than just the record though. This team did not look good even in their wins.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 5:17 pm to Stripes314
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I think 8 wins this year would've been considered a really good year
I want to challenge this. I would have been happy, but not to the point that I thought we didn't need to improve. I think we are at a point, as a program, where 8 wins is should no longer be considered "really" good.
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In context yes it would.
I think our context has changed, and our expectations must change with it. Pinkel has truly built our program, and for that I'm grateful. Without his influence, we would not have made it into the promised land that is the SEC, but instead still be on the outside looking in in terms of conference expansion.
We are in the SEC now, and we need to adjust our expectations accordingly. Our new "context" rewards winning, and we did not change conferences to be the new creampuff on the schedule. We can't be willing to be "OK" or "decent" any longer!
Above anything, I consider this season a disappointment not because of the injuries or talent. To me, it was disappointing because of all the drama - which is new, and very different from our teams in recent years. We looked undisciplined, unfocused, and sometimes flat lost - coaches and players alike. In the last couple of games, there seemed to be a lack of energy, from fans and players alike - and it seemed like the team gave up before the game even started yesterday. I can handle a loss if the team plays their heart out. But yesterday was an embarrassment.
If there are no changes to the staff and their approach, I'm going to struggle next season.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 6:08 pm to semotruman
Slapped it out of the ole ballpark, Semo. 
Posted on 11/25/12 at 7:05 pm to Mizzou4ever
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Mizzou4ever
Thanks! Just expressing my opinion, which all are invited to agree with, or not!
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