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Posted on 11/3/12 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 11/3/12 at 7:01 pm
I know that we all would love to play the sips in the Cotton Bowl, but I just don't see that happening. So here are a few matchups that I wouldn't mind seeing:
Chick Fil A Bowl vs Clemson
Outback Bowl vs MSU
Gator Bowl vs Wisconsin?
Those are just a few games that I see as a realistic possibility. What do y'all think?
Chick Fil A Bowl vs Clemson
Outback Bowl vs MSU
Gator Bowl vs Wisconsin?
Those are just a few games that I see as a realistic possibility. What do y'all think?
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Posted on 11/3/12 at 7:10 pm to Houston Summit
from wiki
#1 and #2 will go to BCS
for arguments sake let's say Bama wins out so them and UF (UGA and LSU must have 2 losses)
Cap One Bowl - LSU
Cotton - A&M (West choice)
Outback - UGA (East choice)
At this point I think it's pretty likely. Only way it doesn't is if Cap One takes UGA or SC over LSU and I don't think that will happen unless LSU gets curb stomped tonight.
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The Southeastern Conference has ten bowl tie-ins.[14]
#1 Bowl Championship Series. The winner of the SEC Championship Game gains an automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Allstate Sugar Bowl.
#2 The Capital One Bowl must select the team with the best overall record among non-BCS playing SEC teams, or a team within one game of the best record.
#3-4 The Cotton Bowl Classic has first pick of remaining teams from the Western Division, and the Outback Bowl typically picks a remaining team from the Eastern Division.
#5 The Chick-fil-A Bowl selects after those two bowls.
#6 The Gator Bowl receives the sixth pick. #7-8 The Music City Bowl and the Liberty Bowl work with the SEC office to determine the seventh and eighth picks.
#9 The BBVA Compass Bowl receives the ninth choice of SEC teams. In years where the SEC does not have nine bowl eligible teams, the BBVA Compass Bowl will select from the Sun Belt Conference instead.
#10 The Independence Bowl receives the tenth pick.
#1 and #2 will go to BCS
for arguments sake let's say Bama wins out so them and UF (UGA and LSU must have 2 losses)
Cap One Bowl - LSU
Cotton - A&M (West choice)
Outback - UGA (East choice)
At this point I think it's pretty likely. Only way it doesn't is if Cap One takes UGA or SC over LSU and I don't think that will happen unless LSU gets curb stomped tonight.
This post was edited on 11/3/12 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 11/3/12 at 8:28 pm to tmc94
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Only way it doesn't is if Cap One takes UGA or SC over LSU and I don't think that will happen unless LSU gets curb stomped tonight
See, this is what I'm interested to see: assuming the current standings remain and Georgia faces Bama in the Championship, what happens if Georgia loses? Will Georgia still be eligible as a BCS At-Large? If so, I see it breaking down like this:
Bama to the NC
Georgia to the Sugar
UF to Capital One (since they beat LSU earlier)
LSU to the Cotton
A&M to Chick Fil A
However, if Florida goes to the Sugar instead, I guess the issue then becomes who gets invited to the Capital One: LSU or Georgia? Because if LSU gets the nod to go to the Capital One, I doubt the Cotton Bowl would select Georgia since they are from the East and therefore may not sell as many tickets, which would open the door for A&M. But if the Capital One picks Georgia, LSU would then fall to the Cotton, and we'd be picked by Chick Fil A most likely.
Posted on 11/3/12 at 9:10 pm to Houston Summit
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Chick Fil A Bowl vs Clemson
DO...NOT...WANT!!
Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:49 pm to Houston Summit
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this is what I'm interested to see: assuming the current standings remain and Georgia faces Bama in the Championship, what happens if Georgia loses? Will Georgia still be eligible as a BCS At-Large?
Anyone in top 16 is eligible. However the 2nd slot is at large and up to the bowls to select and whether a school played in the SEC champ makes no difference. The Sugar will almost certainly pick an SEC school.
In your scenario, you'll have records like:
13-0 Bama
11-2 UGA
10-2 LSU
10-2 SC
UF is the wild card. If they beat FSU they are 11-1 and probably ranked highest. If not they'll be 10-2 and LSU will be the highest ranked 2 loss team. Sugar will never ever ever pass LSU for UGA. I think they'd happily take an 11-1 UF but basically the only way UGA plays BCS is if they beat Bama.
CapOne will then choose whoever the Sugar doesn't (LSU/UF). They'd kill for UF honestly but #6 LSU would be a decent consolation. Outback takes an East team between UGA or SC and then the Cotton chooses between whoever they didn't take and A&M. Cotton will always pick A&M in that scenario because demand will be through the roof.
So at this point, barring an unexpected result somewhere along the way, we're almost certainly going to the Cotton.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 7:11 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Just as a hypothetical, would you rather play
Clemson's combo of great O and pants-shitting D in the Chick-fil-A Bowl...
or
Oklahoma's combo of VERY good O and good D in the Cotton Bowl...
Those are the two scenarios that I see most likely happening IMHO.
Clemson's combo of great O and pants-shitting D in the Chick-fil-A Bowl...
or
Oklahoma's combo of VERY good O and good D in the Cotton Bowl...
Those are the two scenarios that I see most likely happening IMHO.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 9:27 pm to tmc94
Latest ESPN projection:
Cotton Bowl vs tu.
Cotton Bowl vs tu.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 4:57 am to Houston Summit
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Cotton Bowl vs tu
I'd actually rather not play them. Taylor might be the official and screw us again.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:17 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Don't be a wuss.
Anytime, anywhere remember?
Anytime, anywhere remember?
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:35 am to Dr RC
What do we really gain from playing the sips? It validates them more than it validates us. I'd rather slap the shite out of an overrated ACC team (Clemson) in Atlanta, or a slow, fat, and weak Big 10 team (Michigan, Nebraska/Wisconsin loser, Northwestern again) in Florida.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 10:36 am
Posted on 11/5/12 at 10:45 am to CGSC Lobotomy
It would cement us as the number one team in Texas and would make it possible to put our foot down on their throats when it comes to recruiting.
That game will also be a night game on Fox with no other football competition so it will get huge ratings. A good game from Johnny would lead to him being placed as front runner for Heisman and a top 10 ranking to start next year. (a year our schedule actually sets up very well for a title run BTW)
Normally, ESPN would cover the Cotton as little as possible but due to their investment in LHN, they would be forced to give it heavy coverage.
No game against a Big10 team will earn us respect this year. ACC teams wouldn't give us much pop going into next year either. Like it or not, the Big 12 is the #2 conference top to bottom and beating them down will give us more respect than any other bowl game we could play.
That game will also be a night game on Fox with no other football competition so it will get huge ratings. A good game from Johnny would lead to him being placed as front runner for Heisman and a top 10 ranking to start next year. (a year our schedule actually sets up very well for a title run BTW)
Normally, ESPN would cover the Cotton as little as possible but due to their investment in LHN, they would be forced to give it heavy coverage.
No game against a Big10 team will earn us respect this year. ACC teams wouldn't give us much pop going into next year either. Like it or not, the Big 12 is the #2 conference top to bottom and beating them down will give us more respect than any other bowl game we could play.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 10:47 am
Posted on 11/5/12 at 11:12 am to Dr RC
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Like it or not, the Big 12 is the #2 conference top to bottom
BCS Conference #1: 1,5,6,7,8,15,21 ranked teams
BCS Conference #2: 3,11,14,18,19 ranked teams
BCS Conference #3: 2,12,17,22 ranked teams
BCS Conference #4: 10,13 ranked teams
BCS Conference #5: 9,23 ranked teams
BCS Conference #6: 16,24 ranked teams
We know #1 is the SEC. #2 is NOT the Big 12.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 11:12 am to Dr RC
Just bought Cotton Bowl tickets on Stub Hub this morning.
I hope it is Texas or OU. Would prefer Texas but OU would be great.
I personally think Dodds will do everything in his power to avoid A&M for a variety of reasons, many of which you already stated.
I think the UT fan base will be howling for a game against A&M. Going to take a lot of pressure from the fan base and alumni at UT to get them to play us. Dodds knows what will be at stake.
Tuck Fexas.
GIGEM
I hope it is Texas or OU. Would prefer Texas but OU would be great.
I personally think Dodds will do everything in his power to avoid A&M for a variety of reasons, many of which you already stated.
I think the UT fan base will be howling for a game against A&M. Going to take a lot of pressure from the fan base and alumni at UT to get them to play us. Dodds knows what will be at stake.
Tuck Fexas.
GIGEM
Posted on 11/5/12 at 11:27 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I don't care about the current rankings. By the end of the year when everyone has played everyone, the Big 12 will be #2.
and even if you want to put the Pac12 above it, the Big12 is still the most respected conference we have a shot at playing this year and its not even close.
and even if you want to put the Pac12 above it, the Big12 is still the most respected conference we have a shot at playing this year and its not even close.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 11:35 am
Posted on 11/5/12 at 11:35 am to Dr RC
Let's revisit this, top to bottom:
PAC 12:
Oregon 9-0: will likely end up 13-0
Oregon State 7-1: will likely end up 10-2
Stanford 7-2: will likely end up 9-3
UCLA 7-2: will likely end up 8-4
USC 6-3: will likely end up 9-4
Arizona 5-4: will likely end up 8-4
Arizona State 5-4: will likely end up 6-6
Washington 5-4: will likely end up 8-4
Utah 4-5: will likely end up 5-7
Cal 3-7: will lose out
Washington State 2-7: will lose out
Colorado 1-8: will lose out
That's 8/12 bowl-eligible teams
Big 12:
Kansas State 9-0: will likely end up 12-0
Oklahoma 6-2: will likely end up 10-2
Texas 7-2: will likely end up 9-3
TCU 6-3: will likely end up 7-5
West Virginia 5-3: will likely end up 7-5
Oklahoma State 5-3: will likely end up 7-5
Texas Tech 6-3: will likely end up 7-5
Iowa State 5-4: will likely end up 5-7
Baylor 4-4: will likely end up 4-8
Kansas 1-8: will lose out
When last I checked, 75% bowl eligible > 70% bowl eligible in terms of "top to bottom" strength
PAC 12:
Oregon 9-0: will likely end up 13-0
Oregon State 7-1: will likely end up 10-2
Stanford 7-2: will likely end up 9-3
UCLA 7-2: will likely end up 8-4
USC 6-3: will likely end up 9-4
Arizona 5-4: will likely end up 8-4
Arizona State 5-4: will likely end up 6-6
Washington 5-4: will likely end up 8-4
Utah 4-5: will likely end up 5-7
Cal 3-7: will lose out
Washington State 2-7: will lose out
Colorado 1-8: will lose out
That's 8/12 bowl-eligible teams
Big 12:
Kansas State 9-0: will likely end up 12-0
Oklahoma 6-2: will likely end up 10-2
Texas 7-2: will likely end up 9-3
TCU 6-3: will likely end up 7-5
West Virginia 5-3: will likely end up 7-5
Oklahoma State 5-3: will likely end up 7-5
Texas Tech 6-3: will likely end up 7-5
Iowa State 5-4: will likely end up 5-7
Baylor 4-4: will likely end up 4-8
Kansas 1-8: will lose out
When last I checked, 75% bowl eligible > 70% bowl eligible in terms of "top to bottom" strength
Posted on 11/5/12 at 11:44 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I don't care. I'm not going to agree with you on Pac12 vs Big12.
and again, your opinion on which is better means jack squat to the bowl question because the SEC has no bowl parings with the Pac 12.
The Big 12 is a clear step above every other conference the SEC has a bowl paring with. We would get more respect from beating a Big 12 team in the Cotton than we would from any team out of the Big 10 or ACC. It doesn't matter that FSU and Clemson are ranked higher right now. Nobody actually respects them.
FSU lost to an NC St that seems to have collapsed. Clemson has a very bad defense that gave up 70 to a now mid level Big 12 WVU last year in a bowl. People would simply look at a win over them as further proof the ACC is garbage.
Also, while I'm not going to go through your predictions team by team, I know you are for sure wrong about Iowa St. They still have Kansas on the schedule. They go bowling.
and again, your opinion on which is better means jack squat to the bowl question because the SEC has no bowl parings with the Pac 12.
The Big 12 is a clear step above every other conference the SEC has a bowl paring with. We would get more respect from beating a Big 12 team in the Cotton than we would from any team out of the Big 10 or ACC. It doesn't matter that FSU and Clemson are ranked higher right now. Nobody actually respects them.
FSU lost to an NC St that seems to have collapsed. Clemson has a very bad defense that gave up 70 to a now mid level Big 12 WVU last year in a bowl. People would simply look at a win over them as further proof the ACC is garbage.
Also, while I'm not going to go through your predictions team by team, I know you are for sure wrong about Iowa St. They still have Kansas on the schedule. They go bowling.
This post was edited on 11/5/12 at 11:49 am
Posted on 11/5/12 at 12:14 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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t do we really gain from playing the sips?
An A&M vs tu Cotton Bowl would be incredible, and it's crazy to suggest that we wouldn't benefit from beating the sips in the postseason. That game would get some crazy coverage and an insane amount of hype, which is something that no program can get enough of. Also, if we win that game (which I see no reason why we wouldn't), that would solidify that we are THE team in Texas, and that is huge with recruiting and exposure. So yes, there is a lot to be gained by playing that game IMO
Posted on 11/5/12 at 2:48 pm to Houston Summit
Here is a little tidbit that I think is lost on most Ags. I remember this because I am an old fart... 40 years old and class of '94.
Do you know what we would gain by winning the Cotton Bowl, even if it isn't against the sips?
Answer: Our first January bowl win since 1988. 25 years... a full generation. I was a high school sophomore when we beat Notre Dame.
I think that it's lost on many of you how unbelievably huge it would be to get that money off of our back.
Do you know what we would gain by winning the Cotton Bowl, even if it isn't against the sips?
Answer: Our first January bowl win since 1988. 25 years... a full generation. I was a high school sophomore when we beat Notre Dame.
I think that it's lost on many of you how unbelievably huge it would be to get that money off of our back.
Posted on 11/5/12 at 2:59 pm to daboman of Aggieland
I don't think that stat is going to last long regardless. Unlike the Big 12 where you only play in January for BCS and Cotton, there are 4 bowls outside of the BCS in Jan for the SEC, so almost always 6 SEC teams play in January.
#1-2 SEC - BCS
#3 SEC - Cap One - Jan 1
#4/5 SEC - Cotton - Jan 4
#4/5 SEC - Outback - Jan 1
#6 SEC - Chick Fil A - Dec 31
#7 SEC - Gator - Jan 1
#1-2 SEC - BCS
#3 SEC - Cap One - Jan 1
#4/5 SEC - Cotton - Jan 4
#4/5 SEC - Outback - Jan 1
#6 SEC - Chick Fil A - Dec 31
#7 SEC - Gator - Jan 1
Posted on 11/5/12 at 3:11 pm to daboman of Aggieland
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Our first January bowl win since 1988. 25 years...
I was at that game. High school buddy of mine was on the kickoff team.. Blake Dwoskin. He was on the 12th man kickoff team. That was the game when one of the guys stole Tim Brown's towel and Tim tackled the guy on the way back to the Aggie sideline to get his towel back.
That was a great day in Big D. Sure miss having the Cotton Bowl in the old stadium, not that impressed with Jerry World.
But to your point, it would be nice to win in Janauary again and start doing it on a regular basis.
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