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Franklin Will Start vs. Florida

Posted on 10/28/12 at 8:37 pm
Posted by jafo
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 8:37 pm
Just read an article with Franklin quoting that he feels he'll be near 100% by this tuesday. Don't know why Tuesday but thats what he said. He also said unless he's hit by a car between now and Saturday, he will be starting against Florida.

I just hope that he's not exaggerating. I hope he's close or is 100%. He definiltey adds another demension to the offense. If we can just keep him healthy and he can get his timing back with the recievers, he can be affective.
Posted by jafo
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 8:45 pm to
Here's a link to the article.

LINK
Posted by URHatinIt
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 8:55 pm to
God I hope he doesn't go down again
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 9:13 pm to
I don't see them wavering to much from the adjustments they ran against Kentucky myself.

I really have a hard time seeing them trying to run Franklin too much. I think they could stick with the tightend on the line for a blocker and running more of that pistol style offense too.

I have to say, I feel much better knowing he feels confident he's going to be close to 100%. This is what we've been waiting on all season. We just need some other player to step up, like the recievers catching whats thrown thier way.
Posted by SoCalMIZ
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 9:32 pm to
Did anyone else notice Moe going in motion to block at a hybrid FB spot several times Saturday? This seemed to help the run game. Makes me wonder if we are going to see major adjustments Saturday to help protect JF.

Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 9:56 pm to
I've lost any confidence in Franklin. I know injuries are all different and players' pain tolerances are all different, but I saw Fisher out there gutting it out and I couldn't help but think of Franklin comfortably sitting on the sidelines. I will also say I was shocked to see him come into the game against Kentucky. Either you're good to go and play or you're not. If he could play, where the hell was he? Maybe the coaching staff's decision but the net result is I've lost any confidence in Franklin.

Beyond that, Franklin ain't the answer. Maybe more of an answer than Berk, but won't matter against Florida. Might make the difference against Syracuse and UT though.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:12 pm to
Did Franklin "gut" it out all last season with a shoulder that required surgery at the end of the year?

I don't get the bagging on Franklin's toughness honestly. Seems like people are all about finding scapegoats at this point in the season. This time last year the same people bagging Franklin for his lack of toughness were praising him for playing tough while banged up.

Meh.

Can't it be that we are playing more physical and much better teams. Can't it be that our offense and its timing are completely thrown off because of injuries on the offensive line and the inability to pass protect for mid level and over the top routes to mature? Not being able to stretch the field has allowed defenses to t-up inside the box and in the flats.

Im not ready to throw Franklin under the bus, sorry.

Posted by semotruman
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

I know injuries are all different and players' pain tolerances are all different, but I saw Fisher out there gutting it out and I couldn't help but think of Franklin comfortably sitting on the sidelines.

Totally different positions. You can't really compare them.

quote:

Either you're good to go and play or you're not. If he could play, where the hell was he?

Perhaps the coaches decided to let him have another week to heal unless he was needed? And after back to back interceptions by Berk, they decided he was needed? Maybe they didn't Berk could win the game for them after all, and decided it was worth putting Franklin in?

I've said it before - Franklin gives us our best chance to win. This year, at least. And no, it won't make a difference against Florida. But unless he gets hurt again/worse, we need him playing.
Posted by SoCalMIZ
Jumbotown, U.S.A.
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Posted on 10/28/12 at 10:34 pm to
I was down on Franklin as well. Especially since I was excited to see what he would do this year. I think it's obvious now, he wasn't ready to go, got manhandled, and got freaked out about re-injury. IMO, this is what got to Pinkel prior to the ASU game.

The knee injury may have been the best thing to happen to him, gave him a real excuse to sit, get his mind right, and get confidence back in his shoulder.

The offense is obviously better with JF, we've seen in his body of work that Berkstressor isn't a number one QB. We have a much better shot at making a bowl with a healthy JF. I'm almost positive we win going away against Vandy with JF in there. As it stands now, we're gonna need a hell of an effort from him to make it to Shreveport and get that extra 4 weeks of practice, which really is all that matters when you get a shitty bowl game.
This post was edited on 10/28/12 at 10:37 pm
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 12:28 am to
I'm not looking for a scapegoat. I'm not throwing anyone under the bus. I've also never praised Franklin. I've never been a huge Franklin fan. Last year or this. I do agree, he likely gives us our best chance at winning right now, but that's not necessarily saying much.

No doubt the Oline is riddled with injuries. I never said it's all on Franklin as far as the poor showing this year. What I have said is I have no confidence in Franklin's ability to win at the top level of football. I just don't see Mizzou ever being better than about .500 in the SEC with him leading the offense.

As far as toughness, it is what it is. Fisher has been gutting it out in obvious pain. All I'm saying is if I'm a player, banged up to hell and still gutting it out, it would make me say "WTF?" with is he hurt too bad to play or not?

Here's to hoping Franklin proves me wrong and throws for 275 and 3 TD's and rushes for 120 and 1 TD.
Posted by zou_keeper
St Louis
Member since Jan 2012
1572 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:05 am to
quote:

Did anyone else notice Moe going in motion to block at a hybrid FB spot several times Saturday? This seemed to help the run game. Makes me wonder if we are going to see major adjustments Saturday to help protect JF.


I liked this look, but they only passed with that motion a couple times. When they had that motion it was just telling the D that we were going to run. If they want that to work against florida they will need to try to pass more. Keeping Moe, or someone, as an extra blocker is very beneficial for us.
Posted by kilo
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:24 am to
Yea, sorry man. That rant wasnt directed at you just a general shotgun blast at some of the crazy shite I have been reading the last couple of weeks regarding Franklin.


Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 6:38 am to
I did'nt like it much when they put an injured QB in while they still had the lead either. But they are trying everything to keep that redshirt on Mauk.

But you could clearly see, even though Franklin eas throwing out patterns and handing the ball off, the offense seemed to calm down. I will admit that much.

But I have said it all year, they played Franklin way to early this year. He clearly was'nt ready to go. But he's our best option to win and run this offense. He communicates with his recievers between plays ect. The kid wants to win just as much as we want them to win.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21843 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 7:36 am to
So this will guarantee our 3rd down converstion percentage is back below 30%. Great.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 8:39 am to
I hear ya. You must have been reading TB. I'll pull for the team every week whether it's Franklin, Yost, Pinkel or Berk. There's nothing I like more than to be wrong if it means the team is winning. I know it doesn't have a damn thing to do with his ability on the field, but I have just never liked the robotic or docile approach he brings. The kid obviously has a lot of talent or he wouldn't be playing D1 football and with that comes a certain amount of toughness, so maybe I was being a bit harsh on him as well. I was just surprised to see he was able to play half the game and wondered why the hell he didn't just start then. Probably out of his control. Here's to Franklin using that calm demeanor to his advantage and taking it to Florida this week.
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25492 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 8:43 am to
I have come around to believing he gives us our best opportunity to win right now. I thought Berk had to be given a shot and I was wrong about him. With this season being what it is, I'm kinda getting ahead of myself and thinking 12 months from now I hope there is either an improvement in Franklin or someone else that steps up and gives us a better opportunity to win.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21843 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 9:13 am to
berk has started the 2 decent games we have won. Yost was stupid for passing anytime it wasn't absolutely necessary. The WRs are an abomination to the game of football right now.

Berk threw 2 terrible INTs. Other than that, his throws were strong, on target and he moved well in the pocket most of the day. He has the arm strength to convert those 3rd & 6 type downs and hit the stop route in the slot before the D can close. Those throws keep drives alive. Franklin just can't do that.

Corbin will never be an AA type QB, but he has way more potential than Franklin but the offense needs to be tweaked to fit his game.
Posted by jafo
Northwest Missouri State Bearcats
Member since Jan 2012
2954 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 12:06 pm to
Have you forgot the Georgia game? I think he hit two deep slant patterns in that game. They would have won that game if the line could have given Franklin alittle more time.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21843 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:11 pm to
Yeah, I remember franklin crumbling and giving the game away to UGA. It was terrible how he fell apart. How could I forget? Franklin isn't going to beat good teams unless the defense and special teams do all the work.
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
30106 posts
Posted on 10/29/12 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Corbin will never be an AA type QB, but he has way more potential than Franklin but the offense needs to be tweaked to fit his game.


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