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re: Who is the biggest heisman snub in the past 20 years?

Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by harmonics
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:00 pm to
Peyton Manning no doubt.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:07 pm to
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Yeah Ingram was better than TG..and still is..


Not in college. TG faced more top 30 defenses.Ingram faced more top 50 defenses. I love Ingram. Watching his Heisman speech made me see him in a diff light and I'm a life long Saints fan.
Posted by bamascott2
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:09 pm to
JJ.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:10 pm to
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Toby Gerhart had a future first pick playing QB in front of him, as well as future first round offensive linemen blocking for him, playing in a weakened Pac-10. There is no way he was better than Ingram.


Luck was a freshman. Ingram also had a stud rb to give him a breather. Ingram had the better line and also had Julio on the outside which usually meant safety help , over the top, rather than safety help in the box. Ingram had far better offensive players around him. TG was basically Stanford's offense in 09.
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:13 pm to
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I know. If anyone got screwed, it was Suh. That Heisman vote told me that a Def player would never win it again. Suh had the most dominate season , in the last 20-30 years, and was snubbed.


Agree 100%. So dumb that a lineman never wins it considering Heisman himself was one.
Posted by SeaCay
Odessa, FL
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:21 pm to
Tebow's second, a victim of south western sports writers kung fu treachery!
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:28 pm to
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Luck was a freshman.


Andrew Luck completed nearly 60% of his passes for close to 2,600 yards in his freshman year and was the team's second leading rusher. Plus the team didn't miss a beat without Gerhart the next two years as they went a combined 23-3.
This post was edited on 7/25/12 at 5:29 pm
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:30 pm to
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JJ




Mark Ingram should relinquish his for him
Posted by USMC Gators
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:36 pm to
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Tebow's second, a victim of south western sports writers kung fu treachery!

He got the most first place votes yet finished third...
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:41 pm to
Tommy Frazier
Peyton Manning
Posted by Johnny B Goode
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:43 pm to
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peyton manning without a question.
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:45 pm to
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As awesome as McFadden was, Arkansas wasn't that great during the years he was there... hard to win a Heisman when your team is pretty average.


"I disagree with this post." - signed Barry Sanders, Okla St. 1988
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:47 pm to
The only two losses oSu had were to OU and NU who were both top 5.

ETA:
I think they were 1/2 and OU beat NU last game of year.
This post was edited on 7/25/12 at 5:49 pm
Posted by reel_gator8
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:49 pm to
Peyton never beat UF and in his sr year at UF he was picked off for a 89 yd trip to the house by Tony George. The Swamp was rocking that day.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:51 pm to
Peyton Manning
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:52 pm to
Not in the time frame, but Herschel should have won it in 1980.
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 5:54 pm to
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Not in the time frame, but Herschel should have won it in 1980.


I was actually going to say this earlier on here, but looked up the winner and it was George Rogers from south Carolina. He was a beast too
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 6:17 pm to
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The only two losses oSu had were to OU and NU who were both top 5.

ETA:
I think they were 1/2 and OU beat NU last game of year.


Remember that the late 1980's Big 8 included REALLY bad Kansas and Kansas State teams, not to mention Iowa State, and Texas Tech which were also doormats. they also faced Miami OH and Tulsa that year.

Take away Barry Sanders and OSU was a 4-7, maybe 5-6 team IMHO. At best. Very mediocre team who peaked with the right two players at the right time (Sanders and of course Thomas the previous year).

Granted, my opinion plus fitty cents might get you a cuppa coffee somewhere.

This post was edited on 7/25/12 at 6:18 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/25/12 at 6:31 pm to
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Trent Richardson was definitely snubbed.


No, he wasn't.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46650 posts
Posted on 7/25/12 at 6:32 pm to
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Ingram had 5 games with less than 100 yrds (RB standard) rushing the year he won it. Has there ever been a Heisman RB Winner with a stat like that ?

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