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re: How long until we go to 16 teams?
Posted on 5/2/12 at 2:52 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 5/2/12 at 2:52 am to Draconian Sanctions
just for fun imagine these scenarios with 16 SEC teams:
Scenario 1 - add one team from Va and NC (Va Tech and NC State)
Pros - Adds two large states with southern identities giving a logical geographic footprint
Cons - none other than expansion
Division1 - LSU, Arky, A&M, Ole Miss
Division2 - Bama, Auburn, MU, MSU
Division3 - Tenn, Va Tech, NC State, Vandy
Division4 - Florida, Georgia, USC, KY
Scenario 2 - Add Texas and OU
Pros - adds two of the most prestigious football programs in the country, still gives a rational footprint
Cons - OU unlikely without Ok State, Texas a problem child that wants to dictate policy instead of share, SEC is already in Texas and Oklahoma is smaller than other states teh SEC could expand into
Division1 - Texas, OU, Arkansas, MSU
Division2 - LSU, A&M, MU, Ole Miss
Division3 - Bama, Auburn, Georgia, KY
Division4 - Florida, Tenn, USC, Vandy
Scenario 3 - the SEC goes Yankee and adds Kansas and Illinois
Pros - Kansas is a great basketball get, Illinois is a monster state and a very strong basketball program, both have natural rivalries with Missouri and the SEC might suddenly be the best basketball conference as well as teh best football conference.
Cons - would this really work? very awkward balancing the needs of balancing football and basketball program strengths when creating the divisions.
Division 1 - LSU, A&M, Arky, Ole Miss
Division 2 - Alabama, Auburn, Kansas, MU
Division 3 - Georgia, Tenn, Illinois, MSU
Division 4 - Florida, USC, KY, Vandy
Scenario 1 - add one team from Va and NC (Va Tech and NC State)
Pros - Adds two large states with southern identities giving a logical geographic footprint
Cons - none other than expansion
Division1 - LSU, Arky, A&M, Ole Miss
Division2 - Bama, Auburn, MU, MSU
Division3 - Tenn, Va Tech, NC State, Vandy
Division4 - Florida, Georgia, USC, KY
Scenario 2 - Add Texas and OU
Pros - adds two of the most prestigious football programs in the country, still gives a rational footprint
Cons - OU unlikely without Ok State, Texas a problem child that wants to dictate policy instead of share, SEC is already in Texas and Oklahoma is smaller than other states teh SEC could expand into
Division1 - Texas, OU, Arkansas, MSU
Division2 - LSU, A&M, MU, Ole Miss
Division3 - Bama, Auburn, Georgia, KY
Division4 - Florida, Tenn, USC, Vandy
Scenario 3 - the SEC goes Yankee and adds Kansas and Illinois
Pros - Kansas is a great basketball get, Illinois is a monster state and a very strong basketball program, both have natural rivalries with Missouri and the SEC might suddenly be the best basketball conference as well as teh best football conference.
Cons - would this really work? very awkward balancing the needs of balancing football and basketball program strengths when creating the divisions.
Division 1 - LSU, A&M, Arky, Ole Miss
Division 2 - Alabama, Auburn, Kansas, MU
Division 3 - Georgia, Tenn, Illinois, MSU
Division 4 - Florida, USC, KY, Vandy
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Posted on 5/2/12 at 5:39 am to molsusports
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Scenario 2 - Add Texas and OU Pros - adds two of the most prestigious football programs in the country, still gives a rational footprint Cons - OU unlikely without Ok State, Texas a problem child that wants to dictate policy instead of share, SEC is already in Texas and Oklahoma is smaller than other states teh SEC could expand into Division1 - Texas, OU, Arkansas, MSU Division2 - LSU, A&M, MU, Ole Miss Division3 - Bama, Auburn, Georgia, KY Division4 - Florida, Tenn, USC, Vandy
Posted on 5/2/12 at 8:46 am to molsusports
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Scenario 2 - Add Texas and OU
Forget it. A&M probably has it's own "gentleman's agreement" with Arkansas and Mizzou (and probably LSU as well) to keep Texas out of the mix. Or some working arrangement with the Florida/Georgia/Tennessee bloc. Or both.
OU can't (and won't) go anywhere without Ok State.
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Scenario 3 - the SEC goes Yankee and adds Kansas and Illinois
Kansas wouldn't be blocked but may have a K-State problem.
Illinois isn't leaving the B1G (nor is anyone else from there).
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Scenario 1 - add one team from Va and NC (Va Tech and NC State)
The most likely scenario (and the one I hope happens). But this would require somebody to destabilize the ACC enough to get the B1G to extend an invite to UVa and UNC (VT won't make the first move), thus freeing up VT and NCST to leave.
Posted on 5/2/12 at 8:53 am to molsusports
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Scenario 1 - add one team from Va and NC (Va Tech and NC State)
VA tech should never be allowed. Not a very committed fan base. Half of the VT fans are Duke and UNC fans in basketball season. If they fall back down to the abyss like there were pre-Beamer, most would prolly just start rooting for Bama or the flavor of the month in footbal
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Scenario 2 - Add Texas and OU
I don't mind OU and OSU, but that's not likely to happen. I don't want TX and their elitist attitude
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Scenario 3 - the SEC goes Yankee and adds Kansas and Illinois
Illinois is just starting to get too far north. Don't mind the KU addition. They certainly add to the basketball brand, and it does give Mizzou their traditional rival
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