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re: Major tornado outbreak expected tomorrow

Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:06 am to
Posted by Brodeur
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Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:06 am to
What time are they coming through?
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9141 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:12 am to
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What time are they coming through?


Anywhere from about sunrise tomorrow morning throughout much of Friday.

I think it's safe to say tomorrow could be a rough drive anywhere on I-65 between Birmingham and Indianapolis.
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
5283 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:13 am to
I agree that it has been overactive but not as much as people have been talking about. More attention is brought to it because of last April.

Matter of fact, on the alabamawx.com blog there is a look back at the tornado that hit Enterprise 5 years ago today.

It has been very warm this winter but that is a result of a lot of things that don't involve anything humans do.

On the other end of the spectrum, had this been a cold winter we would've had several snow events based on the current patterns and past weather history.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9141 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Matter of fact, on the alabamawx.com blog there is a look back at the tornado that hit Enterprise 5 years ago today.


I was about to mention that one. Very unusual storm in that you rarely see an EF4 tornado that far south. For those who don't remember this is the storm that hit Enterprise High School and killed 8 students.

quote:

It has been very warm this winter but that is a result of a lot of things that don't involve anything humans do.

On the other end of the spectrum, had this been a cold winter we would've had several snow events based on the current patterns and past weather history.


Correct. It's a La Nina winter which is typically warm and dry in the southeastern U.S. and terrible for cold weather/snow lovers. Last year's winter was very atypical for a La Nina as it was cold and snowy in the South.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51867 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:21 am to
quote:

It's a La Nina winter which is typically warm and dry in the southeastern U.S.


This has been an awesome winter. Wish every year was like this one.
Posted by mizzoukills
Member since Aug 2011
40686 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:22 am to
Missouri is a target again. Good luck Branson and Springfield (especially Branson) and the rural areas in between...
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9141 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:22 am to
Here's a really good weather link to follow tomorrow especially for those in Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, and Georgia.


LINK

Posted by HerbEaverstinks
Member since Jan 2011
4484 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:36 am to
the purple peanut post is kicking OT butt here on the Rant, whodathunk? Of course, they have bigger fish to fry.
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:45 am to
We transitioned out of La Nina per this weeks ENSO update.

This Week's ENSO
Niño 4 = -0.7ºC
Niño 3.4 = -0.4ºC
Niño 3 = 0.2ºC
Niño 1+2 = 0.9ºC

Average
0ºC

Last Week's ENSO
Niño 4 = -0.9ºC
Niño 3.4 = -0.6ºC
Niño 3 = -0.1ºC
Niño 1+2 = 0.9ºC

Average
-0.175ºC or -0.2ºC

It is only La Nina in Region 4. The rest is Neutral and 1+2 is El Nino. We are pretty much in Neutral.

Forecast shows a Neutral Spring/Summer and transitioning to El Nino in the fall. The last 4 years that had a La Nina transition into a El Nino in less than 12 months had very wet/snowy conditions across the gulf coast and south and very cool Summers with very cold Fall/Winters.

2009, 1989, 1983, 1975
This post was edited on 3/1/12 at 10:46 am
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9141 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 10:57 am to
LET'S GO NINO...clap, clap, clap,clap,clap...LET'S GO NINO...clap, clap, clap,clap,clap...
This post was edited on 3/1/12 at 10:58 am
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:12 am to
Look up the freeze of 1983 and 1989.... Lots of pro mets are comparing the upcoming winter of 2012-2013 to these winters.

Low low solar activity, La Nina to El Nino transition and cool shelf waters.

This was in the ArkLaTex area in 1983.

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:15 am to
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I can tell by the way you chose this shirt


Whoever made that profile has way too much time on their hands. The only time I have ever grown out facial hair was when I dressed up as Freddie Mercury for Halloween a couple years ago.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9141 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Look up the freeze of 1983 and 1989.... Lots of pro mets are comparing the upcoming winter of 2012-2013 to these winters.

Low low solar activity, La Nina to El Nino transition and cool shelf waters.

This was in the ArkLaTex area in 1983.



Do you mean the Dec 1983 cold blast or the winter of 82/83? The days around Christmas 1983 were . Unfortunately we got no snow but I remember Christmas Day being brutal. I was barely 9 years old that Christmas Day and the high in West Central Alabama never got out of the mid 20s even with a bright cloudless sunny day. The wind chill was close to 0. I remember my older brother and I got a go cart for Christmas and my uncle ended up riding it all over the neighborhood.

As for Dec 1989, I vividly remember that epic cold blast even better. That was more disappointing though as I remember it being cloudy with a high in the 20s. We were under a Winter Storm warning and we were supposed to get a few inches of snow but it went south of us. That was the year that Panama City Beach had a white Christmas.

The only downside to the winter of 89/90 was that the rest of winter starting in January sucked after the Dec cold blast. Jan 1990 and the rest of that winter was pretty mild and snowless.

I've heard a lot of forecasters think we're going into a period of colder winters due to the factors you mention. I hope so and hope we go back to the epic winters of the 70s and early to mid 80s again. The area I grew up in is WAY overdue for a big ice storm with the last one being Jan 1982. I'd also love to see another cold blast that rivals Jan 1985. As a winter lover Jan 1985 was
Posted by Littleman
Cleveland, MS
Member since Jan 2012
612 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:33 am to
Here's tomorrow's report.



Here is the forecast for tomorrow mid-afternoon for 0-1 km EHI - basically a combination of low-level wind shear and instability - These values are ridiculously high for this time of year. WATCH OUT tomorrow central Kentucky. We'll be updating continuously and chasing them down.



This post was edited on 3/1/12 at 11:34 am
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43895 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:36 am to
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West central Alabama has always been a hot bed for tornadic activity


The area at times can be as bad as Okla and Ks the difference being the number of them and unlike Okla and Ks, Alabama is loaded with trees and hills so they sneak up on you more. Looks like Bham and Tuscaloosa are in the purple cone. fricking sucks. i work in Fairfield and we usually get brushed by these fricking things every spring. Sad that the same areas of Bama usually get it T-town, Hueytown, Concord, Clanton, Pell City etc
This post was edited on 3/1/12 at 11:39 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:40 am to
They said this morning the main threat for the bad stuff is tomorrow night into Saturday morning. Has that changed?
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9141 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:45 am to
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Sad that the same areas of Bama usually get it T-town, Hueytown, Concord, Clanton, Pell City etc


That particular corridor is ridiculous when it comes to tornadoes. That same stretch has been hit by 2 F5s (1977, 1998), a strong F4 last April, and an F3 on January 23rd. Those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head too.

The super cell that produced an F4 on Dec 16, 2000 in Tuscaloosa also took a path through this same corridor but didn't drop another tornado until it was up near Gadsden.
This post was edited on 3/1/12 at 11:50 am
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:46 am to
The winter of 82/83 was beautiful for Texas. There was a total of 6 weeks of below freezing weather. Lots of snow in this area.

If you really want to salivate, go check out the snowstorm of 1895 in Houston, Beaumont and New Orleans.

Gulf Coast Blizzard - 1895
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:52 am to
quote:

That particular corridor is ridiculous when it comes to tornadoes. That same stretch has been hit by 2 F5s (1977, 1998), a strong F4 last April, and an F3 on January 23rd. Those are just a few I can think of off the top of my head too.


You also had the F4 that hit southern Tuscaloosa in December of 2000 as well as the F4 that struck Piedmont, Alabama on Palm Sunday 1994.

Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9141 posts
Posted on 3/1/12 at 11:59 am to
quote:

The winter of 82/83 was beautiful for Texas. There was a total of 6 weeks of below freezing weather. Lots of snow in this area.

If you really want to salivate, go check out the snowstorm of 1895 in Houston, Beaumont and New Orleans.


I was barely 8 years old in the winter of 82/83 so details of that winter are fuzzy. I do remember all those early and mid 80s winters being very cold and occassionally snowy though. Dec 1984 is the only winter month as a kid that I can distinctly remember wearing shorts around Christmas as we went from the coldest Christmas of my life (1983) to the warmest (1984) in one year. We did get Jan 1985 right after that though.

I don't know what was going on with the weather patterns in the late 1800s but there were some amazing winters back then.

Feb 1899

LINK :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

Some truly incredible quotes from Feb 1899:

On February 12, snow started falling from Fort Myers and Tampa in Florida west towards New Orleans. Blizzard conditions were reported north of Tampa along the west coast of Florida due to ocean-effect snow.

The port of New Orleans was completely iced over by February 13, with ice floes reportedly floating out of the Mississippi River into the Gulf of Mexico. On February 14 the city experienced its coldest ever Mardi Gras reading of 22 °F (-6 °C). The Krewe of Rex Parade was delayed while snow was removed from the route.[1]

Also on February 14, the low temperature in Miami was 29 °F (-2 °C), the second-coldest (and the first sub-30) temperature that the city has ever recorded. It was also the first time that snowfall had occurred in Miami.
This post was edited on 3/1/12 at 12:04 pm
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