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re: My plea for a factual explanation of how TM7 hit on Dre was Dirty/Flagrant
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:40 am to memphisplaya
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:40 am to memphisplaya
Here is what my answer was on 11/7 to the same basic question. I do not think TM7's intent was to be dirty but the execution and timing should have been called flagrant. The event also took place before LSU caught the punt and the flagrant personal foul should have been called and resulted in Alabama still having the ball.
Nothing will change the past event. Best not to worry about it and move on.
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TM7_Era Tyrann Mathieu S/0 to Dre didn't mean to do what I did but it's a technique that we practice, you were just tall as hell and fast as you kno what! Goodluck
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While the technique he is talking about is a legit technique there are two HUGE flaws in his claim. The technique can ONLY be pulled off when you are still close enough to the other player for the strike to reach the center of the cheast plate. TM7 was already beaten too badly to execute the technique. At that point the swinging of a clenched fist becomes the same thing as striking the other player (just as hitting with a clenched fist in a fight)
The second issue, his claim that DK21 was tall, causing him to miss his mark. Tall means he would more likely have hit low rather than high. So again, he was beat and he did something he should not have done to try to limit the damage of his mistake.
I do not think he was "trying" to be dirty any more than the Arky player was trying to be dirty when his execution of an illegal hit was off by timing rather than by location of the hit. TM7 striking DK21 with the wrong timing and in the wrong location does make it a dirty hit and the result of the dirty hit was an injury.
Nothing will change the past event. Best not to worry about it and move on.
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TM7_Era Tyrann Mathieu S/0 to Dre didn't mean to do what I did but it's a technique that we practice, you were just tall as hell and fast as you kno what! Goodluck
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While the technique he is talking about is a legit technique there are two HUGE flaws in his claim. The technique can ONLY be pulled off when you are still close enough to the other player for the strike to reach the center of the cheast plate. TM7 was already beaten too badly to execute the technique. At that point the swinging of a clenched fist becomes the same thing as striking the other player (just as hitting with a clenched fist in a fight)
The second issue, his claim that DK21 was tall, causing him to miss his mark. Tall means he would more likely have hit low rather than high. So again, he was beat and he did something he should not have done to try to limit the damage of his mistake.
I do not think he was "trying" to be dirty any more than the Arky player was trying to be dirty when his execution of an illegal hit was off by timing rather than by location of the hit. TM7 striking DK21 with the wrong timing and in the wrong location does make it a dirty hit and the result of the dirty hit was an injury.
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:46 am to T Rey WI
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I do not think he was "trying" to be dirty any more than the Arky player was trying to be dirty when his execution of an illegal hit was off by timing rather than by location of the hit.
You can't compare those two hits
Posted on 12/9/11 at 1:49 am to T Rey WI
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T Rey WI
Thanks for posting.
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TM7 was already beaten too badly to execute the technique.
I agree. It's easier to tell in hindsight. I think in the heat of the moment, his brain went to that technique and he went for it before considering the variables.
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Tall means he would more likely have hit low rather than high. So again, he was beat and he did something he should not have done to try to limit the damage of his mistake.
Agree again. He did hit him low, as the correct form would have been more o f a downward motion over the shoulder, rather than from the side.
All this points to poor execution of a legit technique, which is much different than an intent to hurt or a reaction to being frustrated. IMO, of course.
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