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re: Miles and Saban: An interesting rivalry

Posted on 7/25/11 at 10:37 am to
Posted by deaux68
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/25/11 at 10:37 am to
I'll be honest as I can.

LSU had a better team in both 2007 and 2010 and honestly they underachieved with both.

I think Miles is an unorganized goofball who has a different way of getting players motivated. He's the anti-Saban. It seems like everything is done on a whim and decisions made on a hunch.

It'll catch up to him at some point.

I think it's more of a reflection of how great the football and athletes in the state of Louisiana are than how good a coach Les Miles is.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17716 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 10:51 am to
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LSU had a better team in both 2007 and 2010 and honestly they underachieved with both.


How can you underachieve with a national championship? And with an 11-2 record?

Seems to me that, for some reason, Miles is just held to a much higher standard then any other football coach in the country where a national championship with a 12-2 record and another 11-2 record is considered 'underachieving.' Apparently, winning isn't enough for him to be considered a 'good' coach, he has to win every game in a blowout to be considered 'good'

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It seems like everything is done on a whim and decisions made on a hunch.


A handful of games doesn't equal 'everything'

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I think it's more of a reflection of how great the football and athletes in the state of Louisiana are than how good a coach Les Miles is.


Isn't winning the goal of a head coach? Hell, Miles won 11 games with a dead last passing game, offensive coordinator that was bat shite crazy, and a QB who has problems passing.
Posted by Whiskey Richard
Member since May 2011
5924 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 10:53 am to
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I think it's more of a reflection of how great the football and athletes in the state of Louisiana are than how good a coach Les Miles is.




Of course you do. You don't want to admit he is a great coach. There are so many variable that go in to making a great head coach, you can't say because miles seems "to do things on a whim" that he doesn't get credit for LSU succeeding. Those comments just show you lack of depth in football knowledge
This post was edited on 7/25/11 at 10:56 am
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41312 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 10:55 am to
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I think it's more of a reflection of how great the football and athletes in the state of Louisiana are than how good a coach Les Miles is.


This shows you have no idea what you are talking about. Also, you don't win 62 games in six years and a national title without being a good coach. Thanks for exposing your limited knowledge about football.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 10:55 am to
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It'll catch up to him at some point.

I think it's more of a reflection of how great the football and athletes in the state of Louisiana are than how good a coach Les Miles is.


been hearing this for the last 5 years
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 11:07 am to
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It'll catch up to him at some point.


You keep thinking that.

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I think it's more of a reflection of how great the football and athletes in the state of Louisiana are than how good a coach Les Miles is.


Oh,for Pete's sakes. Yep,Louisiana high school players are so amazing they need zero coaching in college,no game plan,etc.

Alabama HS football is pretty impressive,too. I guess Alabama's talent alone makes Saban overrated.
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5142 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 11:10 am to
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I think it's more of a reflection of how great the football and athletes in the state of Louisiana are than how good a coach Les Miles is.



Again... Archer, Hallman, and yes, DiNardo.

Edit: Also, according to many pundits, Alabama is raking in the most talent most years, not LSU.
This post was edited on 7/25/11 at 11:15 am
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36168 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 12:42 pm to
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LSU had a better team in both 2007 and 2010 and honestly they underachieved with both.


2010? underachieved in light of how bad the QB play was?

I don't see that argument. 11 wins was borderline remarkable with the near absence of QB play last year

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I think Miles is an unorganized goofball who has a different way of getting players motivated. He's the anti-Saban. It seems like everything is done on a whim and decisions made on a hunch


Miles is 6 years into coaching in the best division and best conference in college football. Luck or chance will only carry you so far

it isn't even worth arguing about really - when you've coached for almost 80 games and you have a record of 62-17 (.785) in the SEC West - it is no longer debatable

Obviously Nick Saban is a tremendous coach - I won't harp on that because I don't think anyone is disputing that
Posted by bigbowe80
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
3709 posts
Posted on 7/25/11 at 4:28 pm to
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I think it's more of a reflection of how great the football and athletes in the state of Louisiana are than how good a coach Les Miles is.


So how do you explain this year when LSU has half the players on the All-Sec Team that Arkansas does but they are still ranked higher in every pre-season poll(top 5) by media and coaches alike?

We know that can't possibly be media and coaches figuring Miles will be Coaching them boys up cause everybody know Miles doesn't coach, he just draws plays in the sand with a stick.

You can't have it both ways, so which one is it?
This post was edited on 7/25/11 at 4:28 pm
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