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re: Discussion Thread for McClover/Keys allegations and purported HBO story

Posted on 2/23/11 at 4:32 pm to
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/23/11 at 4:32 pm to
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How is the comparison "a joke". Both were accused of being bid on by multiple schools. The dollar amounts are very similar. With LY and Means, there was very strong circumstancial evidence of LY providing four figure amounts of cash to a high school coach and a player's family. IF proof of payments are found connecting Auburn and CN, then it will be almost identical to the Means case.


That's the rub. The Means case had a money trail. A head coach at a rundown Memphis high school suddenly had $200,000 and a Range Rover, plus a jilted assistant coach was was more than happy to blow the whistle on the whole thing and help provide evidence to investigators. As far as we know there's nothing even remotely similar in the Cam mess.

The Cam accusation falls apart without any proof of payment - unless Cam or Cecil have some sort of crisis of conscience and admit that Auburn or anyone else gave them money. So where is the money? We're not talking about a sweaty wad of bills to help out with the groceries or rent here, as has been the case with other p4p schemes. We're talking about an amount of money that is larger than most American's retirement nest egg.

And if they haven't traced that by now, it's over. Because the Newton family is now officialy awash with cash. Cam is guaranteed an 8-figure NFL signing bonus and just signed the most lucrative endorsement deal for an NFL prospect ever. You can no longer point to a pile of cash on Cecil's bed and say, where did this come from?

Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9145 posts
Posted on 2/23/11 at 4:50 pm to
You make another good point. I have a rub though as well with the "the coach had $200,000 part". That's an urban legend that changes with the year and hasn't been proven. The "deal" was for that much and maybe he eventually would have gotten that but he didn't get $200k off the bat like is conveniently thrown around. My understanding is he got sizable four figure installments (ultimately WAY below 6 figures) before the whistle was blown. Still bad, but not the ridiculous $200k that always gets thrown around.

I agree about Cam's new money. It will make it much harder to find any money that may have changed hands. I don't think a link would've involved a simple cash transfer in this case though. I think if the payment occurred in was so buried in layers by Auburn people that it would be an absolute bitch trying to actually connect the two.

I've thought for a while now that if Auburn ultimately gets busted it will be from something other than Camgate. I think CamGate will end up being the thing that got the NCAA on the trail of other things IF Auburn ends up in trouble.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 2/23/11 at 4:58 pm to
It has to be pretty frustrating for people in ATPB getting bait put in their face and having it taken away so many times.

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