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A $200,000. Church donation...

Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:56 pm
Lets say that a $200,000. "donation: was made to Cam's fathers church by a Auburn alum.

Is there really anything the NCAA can do? I dont think they have a case legally really.

Am I missing something?

Church donations are private anyway and he doesnt have to say who they came from regardless. The church owes the NCAA nothing..
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:58 pm to
NCAA does what the frick they want. They don't need no laws on their side.
Posted by MCSquared16
Member since Jan 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 12:58 pm to
FBI is involved and if anything is found, I guess the IRS could become involved too. More judicial power than just the NCAA involved here

ETA:
quote:

NCAA does what the frick they want.

Also, this.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 12:59 pm
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2842 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:00 pm to
The NCAA cleared Alfy Hill then changed their mind after he had enrolled and passed 3 classes.

Exactly what is it about the NCAA that makes you think they're a rational organization by any stretch of the imagination?
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

I guess the IRS could become involved too


Not with a church or church donation.

I honestly dont see anyway this loophole will cause Auburn or Cam damage.

Cam's father doenst have to provide shite to anyone regarding church donations. Not even the IRS, much less the NCAA.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 1:02 pm
Posted by WorldBFree
Houston
Member since Nov 2007
106 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

Not even the IRS


Ummmm, no. That's not correct.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Church donations are private anyway and he doesnt have to say who they came from regardless. The church owes the NCAA nothing..


They might be private.

But, the NCAA reserves the right to rule a player ineligible if they want.

Cecil has the right to tell the NCAA to pound sand, but the NCAA has the right to say fine then, hope Cam enjoys watching the rest of the games from the stands.
Posted by Vols22
Ft. Wood, Missouri
Member since Sep 2010
1349 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Not even the IRS,


Wrong
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
17900 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Cecil has the right to tell the NCAA to pound sand, but the NCAA has the right to say fine then, hope Cam enjoys watching the rest of the games from the stands.


This.
Posted by cigtyme
Houma, La
Member since Nov 2007
946 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:06 pm to
Yes he does i think it is a form 990 For non profit organizations. There may be a separation of church and state but i do think the IRS has something to do with these donation. And if anyone donated they also can claim it as a charitable donation, but i really hope any person from AU did not go this route!
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:06 pm to
Didn't they drop the ban hammer on Renardo Sydney b/c they refused to provided financials?
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2842 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Ray Ray Rodman
A $200,000. Church donation...

quote:
I guess the IRS could become involved too



Not with a church or church donation.

I honestly dont see anyway this loophole will cause Auburn or Cam damage.

Cam's father doenst have to provide shite to anyone regarding church donations. Not even the IRS, much less the NCAA.


The NCAA is not part of the justice system. They make they're own rules and things don't have to be cut and dry like in a court of law. Here's the way they'll see it.

Cam was looking at 3 schools, who were they?

Oklahoma
Miss. St.
Auburn

He picks Auburn, okay cool.

What, his dad's church was about to be demolished and suddenly he found the 6 figure sum necessary to save it. That sounds fishy.

Oh it was an Auburn Booster who wrote the check.

Case closed.

It's that simple. They make the rules as they go along.
Posted by CoonassBulldog
Member since Sep 2008
6913 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Is there really anything the NCAA can do? I dont think they have a case legally really.



The NCAA has made Renardo Sidney sit all of last season and then the first 9 games of this season all because he couldnt prove how he paid for part of a trip and lunch in the 9th grade.
Thats all they needed.
Posted by beaver
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Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:10 pm to
don't make up lies...his family was living in a $1.2 million dollar house

quote:

While Renardo Jr. played for Fairfax as a junior and senior, the Sidney family rented upscale homes near the school. The owner of a $1.2-million home the Sidneys rented said Patricia Sidney paid him monthly with a rent check in excess of $4,000. According to the family attorney, Renardo Sr. earned money as a consultant for the apparel company Reebok and Patricia was his personal secretary. The NCAA released a statement saying that the Sidney family was found to have used money from the nonprofit organization for personal gain. The NCAA found the nonprofit funds "would not have been available were it not for the student-athlete's athletic skills and reputation," a violation of amateurism rules. Rule-breaking "preferential treatment" was also extended to Sidney in the form of hotel accommodations, travel expenses, free athletic gear and training, the NCAA reported.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 1:11 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59504 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Is there really anything the NCAA can do? I dont think they have a case legally really.

Am I missing something?


You mean besides the fact that this is not a legal issue?
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Yes he does i think it is a form 990 For non profit organizations. There may be a separation of church and state but i do think the IRS has something to do with these donation. And if anyone donated they also can claim it as a charitable donation,


I mean in reference to turning over any info to the NCAA or the donation being evidence of any wrong doing. He doesnt have to say who it came from in regards to the NCAA.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

Ummmm, no. That's not correct.


It actually is. A church is not required to file a 501(c)(3). They are granted it automatically. They are only required to report unrelated business revenue.

The only reason a church needs to file a 501(c)(3) is for the person who is donating the money to be able to claim the donation on their personal taxes.

The only thing the IRS is allowed to look at churches for is:

1) Are they meeting the requirements to be categorized as a church, or
2) Are they reporting all unrelated business revenue.
Posted by GenericHogFan
Member since Jul 2010
464 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Lets say that a $200,000. "donation: was made to Cam's fathers church by a Auburn alum.

Is there really anything the NCAA can do? I dont think they have a case legally really.

Am I missing something?

Church donations are private anyway and he doesnt have to say who they came from regardless. The church owes the NCAA nothing..


Making absolutely no judgements on whether or not the rumors outstanding are true or not, here goes:

If I want to pay you $X to do something, you are required to pay taxes on that $X. It is illegal to siphon $X through a non-profit and call it a donation when the true intent is otherwise.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:14 pm to
But IF the money never left the churchs hands and was used for improvements or whatever, it wasnt used to laundry or siphon anywhere.

It was a $200,000. church donation, that the church used.
This post was edited on 11/11/10 at 1:21 pm
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 11/11/10 at 1:15 pm to
theenemy...is that absolutely true?


if so that makes me feel better
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