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re: Opinion on Richt
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:19 pm to WG_Dawg
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:19 pm to WG_Dawg
FIVE rivals is just too much. might as well put everyone in the SEC on rivals list. scratch a couple off of your list.
and deep inside you know the teams UGA MUST beat to get to Atlanta is #1UF and #2UT. Richt had it made in '07 before he tanked in the UT game.
and deep inside you know the teams UGA MUST beat to get to Atlanta is #1UF and #2UT. Richt had it made in '07 before he tanked in the UT game.
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Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:19 pm to Phat Phil
FWIW, I agree. UT, UF, and AU are our three biggest rivals. GT is only a rivalry by name, we own them. I think SC thinks of us as a rival but I know very few UGA fans who think of SC as a rival.
6-6 against UT, UF, and AU isn't the horrible. The problem is that 4 of the 6 wins came against AU.
6-6 against UT, UF, and AU isn't the horrible. The problem is that 4 of the 6 wins came against AU.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:20 pm to Phat Phil
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before he tanked in the UT game.
And I disagree with this. UT was a bad match up for us that year. Fat Phil and his players were fighting for his job that week. The game that hurt was the SC loss. Missed FG, dropped TD pass, etc.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:21 pm to MenloDawg
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UT, UF, and AU are our three biggest rivals.
You are so very wrong. You don't think GT is one of our 3 biggest rivals? Just out of curiousity, how old are you? Not flaming or anything, this is a legitimate question.
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GT is only a rivalry by name, we own them
I guess Florida isn't a rival then, since they've owned us recently. There's more to a rivalry than the last 20 years. It involves history, tradition, and hatred. Tech is our biggest rival and always has been. ALWAYS.
This post was edited on 5/21/10 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:23 pm to MenloDawg
I'm not saying AU isn't your big rival. it's just that beating teams head-to-head in the same division works out better in divisional title race.
that's why I always root for SEC West teams when they play SEC East teams. and teams in SEC West fans root for SEC East teams vice versa.
that's why I always root for SEC West teams when they play SEC East teams. and teams in SEC West fans root for SEC East teams vice versa.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:26 pm to WG_Dawg
UGA will have the best Defense in the SEC next year, book it.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:31 pm to Paul Allen
No we won't, not by a long shot. You michigan fans are funny, either you try to bash UGA on any little thing or you're saying we're going to have the best D in the conference. Yall are a funny bunch.
Oh, and if you're being sarcastic I completely missed it.
Oh, and if you're being sarcastic I completely missed it.
This post was edited on 5/21/10 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:36 pm to WG_Dawg
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You would think so. But since 2006, the year we beat UF we didn't go, and the year we beat UT we didn't go. Every SEC game counts just as much as the next.
because when you beat UF in 07, you got owned by UT and as a result UT went to Atlanta. and when you beat UT in 08, UF owned you and they got to go to Atlanta. UF and UT is UGA's main problem. I don't think UK, Vandy, and SC game counts just as much. you've been owning them forever.
steps to NC: win your division->win your conference->possible NC or BCS bowl. how can you argue this fact?
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:39 pm to Phat Phil
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win your division->win your conference->possible NC or BCS bowl. how can you argue this fact?
I'm not arguing that fact. That's crystal clear. All I'm saying is a conference win is a conference win. In one year we could beat UF and UT, then lose to bama, lsu, and auburn and not win the east. Each SEC win counts the same is all I'm saying. Of course I realize that the very first, baby step is to win the east. This whole argument is pretty silly, we're just splitting hairs at this point.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:51 pm to Paul Allen
I wish.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:52 pm to MenloDawg
The biggest problem with Richt is that he's trying to make Georgia the Florida State of the '90s but it hasn't been anywhere near as effective. He's brought all of the negative attributes of that program (heavily penalized, lots of arrests off the field) but not a lot of the good ones (great coaching staff, incredible recruiting). Also, Florida State was able to outathlete a lot of teams during the '90s ala USC during the last decade. It's extremely difficult to do that in today's SEC. Also, having two coaches in the same conference that is clearly better than you doesn't help. I still think Richt is a good coach but he needs to make some major changes to his coaching philosophy going forward.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:54 pm to WG_Dawg
I'm 22. I don't think GT is as big of a rival as UF, UT, or AU. Definitely much larger than SC. For me it's something like:
UF
UT
AU
GT
SC
If Tech wasn't instate they wouldn't be our rival. I didn't mean that b/c we owned them it wasn't a rivalry, I meant it wouldn't be a rivalry if they didn't have "Georgia" in front of their name. They're no threat to us. I can't think of a single time they cost us anything at all.
And FWIW, we've always owned Tech. Florida has only owned us since I've been alive.
UF
UT
AU
GT
SC
If Tech wasn't instate they wouldn't be our rival. I didn't mean that b/c we owned them it wasn't a rivalry, I meant it wouldn't be a rivalry if they didn't have "Georgia" in front of their name. They're no threat to us. I can't think of a single time they cost us anything at all.
And FWIW, we've always owned Tech. Florida has only owned us since I've been alive.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:55 pm to Bench McElroy
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He's brought all of the negative attributes of that program (heavily penalized, lots of arrests off the field)
No. Most everybody agrees that discipline was a MUCH larger problem before Richt arrived on campus.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 12:59 pm to MenloDawg
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MUCH larger problem before Richt arrived on campus.
You mean UGA had players beating up trash cans outside the hospital and feeling up pregnant women before richt got there?
This post was edited on 5/21/10 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/21/10 at 1:03 pm to MenloDawg
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I meant it wouldn't be a rivalry if they didn't have "Georgia" in front of their name. They're no threat to us. I can't think of a single time they cost us anything at all.
I disagree. it's true that loss from GT won't affect the SEC title run, but losing to them constantly will have a HUGE impact in recruiting in the state of Georgia. although their program is not up to the level of UGA, but they're still a decent program. you must own your in-state rivals for recruiting purposes. and recruiting will affect a team 2-3 years down the road from the initial recruiting year.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 1:06 pm to Geauxtigers468
Always heard it was more of class attendance/strength and conditioning problem before Richt arrived on campus. Now we just rage on our scooters.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 1:07 pm to Bench McElroy
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Richt is that he's trying to make Georgia the Florida State of the '90s
Boy that's a stretch.
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lots of arrests off the field
Most for driving scooters without the proper license or underage drinking. I can think of about 50 other things that athletes around the country are doing that are far worse than what ours routinely get in trouble for.
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not a lot of the good ones (great coaching staff, incredible recruiting)
Van Gorder won the Broyles award. He left to become a college head coach and LBs coach in the NFL. Fabris was wanted by Oklahoma before deciding to stay. UT, LSU, AU, etc. have tried to steal Rodney Garner away from us. We just got a DC that Saban wanted at Miami and was good enough for Jerry Jones. As for recruiting, Richt has only finished outside the top 10 once in his career, and it was this year.
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Richt is a good coach but he needs to make some major changes
You're right, and he did. He cut the dead weight on staff and brought in new blood. What else can he do?
Posted on 5/21/10 at 1:08 pm to Paul Allen
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UGA will have the best Defense in the SEC next year, book it.
Keep dreaming.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 1:09 pm to Phat Phil
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but losing to them constantly will have a HUGE impact in recruiting in the state of Georgia.
Completely agree. But we've never lost to them constantly and we never will. They've beaten us twice in a row only more than once since the Civil Rights Movement. Similar to UT and Vandy.
Posted on 5/21/10 at 1:11 pm to MenloDawg
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MenloDawg
I'm only 24, but when looking at our history and traditions, you'll find that Tech has always been our biggest rival. And I mean always. Ask anyone over 50 who Georgia's biggest rival is and they'll say tech, much like any Florida fan over 40 will say their biggest is UGA. Young Georgia fans today (and I'm not talking about you specifically btw) just dismiss tech because we beat them. But rest assured they are our biggest rival. Go to a tech game in Atlanta and that'll become real clear. Or hell, lose to them more than once a decade and see what your life is like. I don't care if we only beat florida twice every 10 years for the next 3 decades, tech will always be my #1. There is just so much bad blood there it's not even funny. It's called "Clean old-fashioned HATE" for a reason.
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