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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:25 am to DCRebel
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:25 am to DCRebel
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False. Arkansas and State fans keep saying this which continues to demonstrate that they're either retarded or have terrible memories. Either way, we were not in the top-5 preseason. Google it.
Hey dickhead, did you not say this?
I googled it and found sites that posted Ole Miss as a top 5 team and that's what I posted a link to.
How credible can they be, after all they did have Ole Miss in the top 5.
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Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:25 am to DCRebel
Ummmm the 3rd year guys were recruited by Nutt in 2008. Did these guys vanish or something?
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:28 am to pankReb
I wasn't going to chime in this time. I really wasn't. Then you said:
If you say THIS, then can you also admit that same problem was left by Nutt in Fayetteville with some other added deficiencies added for good measure? Arkansas fans caught shite for defending Petrino's worth as a coach the past 2 years when the talent/depth wasn't there. Are you now going to use that same excuse but going into the 3rd season? That's utterly ridiculous.
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The problem stems back to Orgeron not recruiting worth a damned to positions that make up half a team. Crappy OL, WR's, DB's and a terrible 2007 class. That's our problem this year. That's why we're having a "down year" this year.
If you say THIS, then can you also admit that same problem was left by Nutt in Fayetteville with some other added deficiencies added for good measure? Arkansas fans caught shite for defending Petrino's worth as a coach the past 2 years when the talent/depth wasn't there. Are you now going to use that same excuse but going into the 3rd season? That's utterly ridiculous.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:29 am to pult44
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Hey dickhead, did you not say this?
I googled it and found sites that posted Ole Miss as a top 5 team and that's what I posted a link to.
How credible can they be, after all they did have Ole Miss in the top 5.
Yeah, I did say it. Just because you found some a-hole's poll on Google doesn't mean shite. When you say "so-and-so is ranked #", you're citing either hte AP or Coaches poll. Otherwise, you're just being an idiot.
Hey, you know what, Tigerdroppings threads show up on Google...
DCRebel's Preseason Top-10
1. Arkansas
2. Mississippi State
3. Yale
4. Holmes Community College
5. South Panola High School
6. Alabama
7. Kent St.
8. Oregon
9. FC Bayern Muenchen
10. The Los Angeles Lakers
A year from now, when State still sucks balls, I'm gonna Google this and call you out as a "preseason top-5" team that didn't perform.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:31 am to ocelot4ark
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If you say THIS, then can you also admit that same problem was left by Nutt in Fayetteville with some other added deficiencies added for good measure?
I agree. But it's not like Nutt just stopped recruiting because he wanted to. You have to admit that it's damned near impossible to recruit to a place like Arkansas from 2005-2007 with all the BS going on.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:31 am to MeowMeow
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Ummmm the 3rd year guys were recruited by Nutt in 2008. Did these guys vanish or something?
Some were and some weren't. He came in in December and a class recruited by Orgeron was already in place. He added Nathan Stanley, Enrique Davis, Ferbia Allen, and maybe one or two other guys. The other players were already committed or Orgeron, therefore they're not Nutt recruits. I think this is a fair way to approach it.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:31 am to ocelot4ark
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ocelot4ark
sounds like their arguing out both end of their arse
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:31 am to DCRebel
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Once again, Ryan Mallett fell in your lap (Mitch Mustain and Lloyd Carr have more to do with it than Bobby Petrino and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise) and, due to his talent and Petrino's playbook, your offense is going to be quite competitive....
You're right. He had no other choice but to go to Arkansas. It was a special provision of his release from Michigan because Loyd Carr is a closet Arkansas fan.
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The problem is, it still won't be tough to hang 30 on the Hogs this year.
Can I get some lotto numbers, Nostradamus?
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:35 am to ocelot4ark
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You're right. He had no other choice but to go to Arkansas.
Your sarcasm aside, I think we all know that he wanted to come back to Arkansas. We know why he didn't go there in the first place. If Mustain wouldn't have been there, he would have been a Hawg all along. Even Arkansas fans admit this.
Mallett still fell into your lap.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:35 am to ocelot4ark
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You're right. He had no other choice but to go to Arkansas. It was a special provision of his release from Michigan because Loyd Carr is a closet Arkansas fan.
I'm talking more along the lines of why he committed to Michigan in the first place. The guy grew up an Arkansas fan, right? And he didn't commit there because Mustain was there and he was worried he'd sit on the bench, right? So he went to Michigan where Lloyd Carr ran a pro-style offense, right? Then Lloyd Carr gets fired in favor of Rich Rodriguez who runs a spread-optin, right? Mustain then transfers to USC, right?
So, naturally, Mallett says "hey, Michigan is going to run an offense that doesn't suit my talents and the guy I was worried about playing behind at Arkansas has left so, yay, I can go to the school I wanted to all along."
Where does Petrino come into the situation? Oh yeah, he doesn't. Granted, if Mallett wants to throw, he's got the guy for him, but it's not like that was the bait that pulled Mallett away from Michigan and into Arkansas.
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Can I get some lotto numbers, Nostradamus?
Don't fricking pull this shite right after defending your Arkansas buddies for making predictions about the upcoming season.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:36 am to DCRebel
Petrino had even LESS time to recruit, and most all the 2008 class was due to him.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:39 am to pankReb
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I agree. But it's not like Nutt just stopped recruiting because he wanted to.
Debateable and not worth it.
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You have to admit that it's damned near impossible to recruit to a place like Arkansas from 2005-2007 with all the BS going on.
No doubt it creates a cloud around the program. I tend to focus more on who created the cloud (Nutt). But the majority of the blame should rest on the shoulders of the men too blinded by good 'ole boy loyalties...the powers that be (white, broyles, lyndsay, BOT, etc). And like I've said before, if Nutt truly felt like he couldn't do his job because of the cloud, he should have done the honorable thing and stepped down. Obviously he can get a new job without much effort.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:40 am to MeowMeow
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Petrino had even LESS time to recruit, and most all the 2008 class was due to him.
fwiw, Nutt's 2008 class is the only reason why we think that we have the ability to win ~7 games. Like I said previously, that class was heavily recruited as a class of supporting players.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:41 am to DCRebel
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some a-hole's poll on Google doesn't mean shite
So an AP writer and Sports Illustrated's rankings don't mean shite and should be compared to what someone like DCRebel post on tigerdroppings? What was Ole Miss in the AP that year #8 or so? Not too far off.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:41 am to MeowMeow
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Petrino had even LESS time to recruit, and most all the 2008 class was due to him.
I'm totally fine with chalking that one up as a mulligan. I have not once argued to the contrary.
However, to talk about "Nutt's players" when the guys Petrino has brought in haven't proven much of anything is pretty foolish. At least some players Nutt has recruited have done things like, you know, score touchdowns and make tackles 'n' shite.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:43 am to ocelot4ark
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No doubt it creates a cloud around the program. I tend to focus more on who created the cloud (Nutt).
That's highly debatable and too easily clouded by bias.
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But the majority of the blame should rest on the shoulders of the men too blinded by good 'ole boy loyalties...the powers that be (white, broyles, lyndsay, BOT, etc).
This is a common ground that can be agreed on. I just don't see why people insist on placing all the blame on Nutt.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:44 am to DCRebel
You might want to put on a flame suit. You will be burned by this statement.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:44 am to pult44
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So an AP writer and Sports Illustrated's rankings don't mean shite and should be compared to what someone like DCRebel post on tigerdroppings? What was Ole Miss in the AP that year #8 or so? Not too far off.
Not far off = you were wrong in saying top-5, my point all along.
And, dude, I know people that write for the AP. You don't exactly have to be bright in order to do so. A TON of sports journalists don't know much about sports. Hell, the average sports journalist likely watches fewer hours of football during any given year than the average Tiger Droppings poster. This is, primarily, why the press poll is stupid.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:45 am to DCRebel
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Where does Petrino come into the situation? Oh yeah, he doesn't. Granted, if Mallett wants to throw, he's got the guy for him, but it's not like that was the bait that pulled Mallett away from Michigan and into Arkansas.
No it's not. But Petrino having the offensive system that he had sealed the deal. Mallett would not have come back to Arkansas if Nutt was still there. He wanted to throw the ball. And he still considered at least two other schools. I'm thinking Tennessee and UCLA, maybe? Though it has been a couple of years.
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Don't fricking pull this shite right after defending your Arkansas buddies for making predictions about the upcoming season.
I was defending what, again? Check again, padna.
Posted on 5/20/10 at 9:46 am to Choctaw Hog
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I believe you were the one over he posting shite about the Hogs falling on their face this year so what is your obsession with the Hogs?
sooo me saying it will be fun to laugh at you and other obnoxious hog posters when you fail = me being obsessed? Great logic pal.
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do you somehow think that would take the sting our of the Rebel's failures last year?
Losing games we should have won vs Aub and MSU hurt, yes. But whipping your arse, Orgeron's arse, and exposing Miles still made for an exciting season.
I just love how Arky fans such as yourself still talk shite after we have owned you the last 2 seasons. How's your blood pressure? Keep an eye on that Choctaw and God bless.
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