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re: To Former Coach Thomas Hawley Tuberville

Posted on 9/3/09 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by superman
Member since Mar 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 9/3/09 at 9:33 pm to
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You stated that it would be difficult for the staff in place to duplicate your success at Auburn. Why did you have to say that?


It will be extremely difficult. Why are you crying about your former coach telling the truth. I'll explain:

- Tuberville coached against DuBose, Franchione, and Shula before finally having to recruit against and play against Saban.

- Chizik is being thrown into the fire against Saban from day one, and will be expected to perform. Like it or not, Chizik is going to have a much more difficult time experiencing the same amount of success Tuberville did - as long as Alabama is still in "good shape" with Saban at the helm.

- There are currently 4 coaches with National Championships under their belts in the SEC.

- There is another guy by the name of Mark Richt who has turned Georgia into a powerhouse football team, and a guy by the name of Bobby Petrino who beat you guys last year with the worst Arkansas team that he'll ever coach.

- There are 3 "new coaches". 1 was an NFL head coach and seems to be a great recruiter. 1 was the offensive coordinator behind what has become the Florida juggernaut. 1 is Gene Chizik.

- When Tommy Tuberville went undefeated in 2004 with the Auburn Tigers, the SEC scene looked like this:

Alabama - Mike Shula (6-6)
Arkansas - Houston Nutt (5-6)
Mississippi State - Sylvester Croom (3-8)
Ole Miss - David Cutcliffe (4-7)
LSU - Nick Saban (8-5)
Florida - Ron Zook (7-5)
Tennessee - Phil Fulmer (10-3)
Georgia - Mark Richt (10-2)
South Carolina - Lou Holtz (6-5)
Vanderbilt - Bobby Johnson (2-9)
Kentucky - Rich Brooks (2-9)

So, as you can see, the SEC was not nearly the monster that it is now. In 2004, there were only 3 teams other than Auburn that won 8 or more games.

It's simply not logical, or in my opinion - fair - to expect or even suggest that Gene Chizik should have the same amount of success as Tommy Tuberville, and I believe that Tuberville was justified in saying so.
Posted by lsutiger2486
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
6761 posts
Posted on 9/3/09 at 9:57 pm to
I think Chizik will be good; however, Auburn fans need to realize they fired a great coach.

Tubberville @ Auburn

4-3 against Saban
1-3 against Miles
3-5 against Richt
2-0 against Meyer
3-1 against Spurrier

13-12 against the top 5 coaches in the SEC while he was at Auburn.
Posted by AUCatfish
How are yah now?
Member since Oct 2007
13995 posts
Posted on 9/3/09 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

It's simply not logical, or in my opinion - fair - to expect or even suggest that Gene Chizik should have the same amount of success as Tommy Tuberville, and I believe that Tuberville was justified in saying so.


Truthful? Perhaps, but not logical or justified. One should have the good taste/good manners not to speak badly about any group/organization that gave, yes gave, you 5 million to sit on your arse.
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