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Deboer just needs time to recruit better players onto his roster
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:11 am
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Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:13 am to supersaints9
Or players that fit his offense and defensive schemes.
You won't see another Milroe type QB out of Alabama for many more years.
You won't see another Milroe type QB out of Alabama for many more years.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:15 am to 3down10
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You won't see another Milroe type QB out of Alabama for many more years.
So Milroe excelled under Saban and has regressed under Deboer.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:16 am to supersaints9
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So Milroe excelled under Saban and has regressed under Deboer.
You make a fine point but I wouldn't say Milroe "excelled". More like Bama excelled as best as they could.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:16 am to 3down10
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Or players that fit his offense and defensive schemes.
So he can’t scheme to be successful with a roster littered with 4 and 5 star athletes?
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:17 am to supersaints9
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So Milroe excelled under Saban and has regressed under Deboer.
No.
Are you forgetting we needed to convert a 4th and 31 to beat a 6-5 Auburn team? Saban retired for a reason.
But it's funny that no matter what happens at Alabama, LSU fans will still need to follow a false narrative to cope.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:17 am to theballguy
Milroe looked so good last season that he was a Heisman front runner heading into this season. What happened then?
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:18 am to supersaints9
Bama needs players that support whoever the coaches decide to play. Players that don't can get out. Losing games is not as bad as having selfish players that won't play hard to support their team mates or try to dictate the coaches. Bama needs a little house cleaning.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:19 am to supersaints9
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Milroe looked so good last season that he was a Heisman front runner heading into this season. What happened then?
I see this is the part where LSU fans pretend they didn't mock Milroe's Heisman chances for a year and now pretend he's regressed because of coaching.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:20 am to supersaints9
Are they implying Saban didn’t leave him good players?
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:20 am to 3down10
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Or players that fit his offense and defensive schemes.
You won't see another Milroe type QB out of Alabama for many more years.
This is a failing for a coach.
Great coaches can change their system to fit their talent. Coaches who have to coach to a system are not great. Steve Spurrier when he went to SC went from a passing focused attack to a ball control attack... because that was the talent he had. And it worked. Mark Richt when he came to UGA had never used TEs or FB's much. But he had talent at those positions at UGA so he changed his offense to fit in (Randy McMichael was quite good). Urban Meyer even being a "system" coach realized that Chris Leak was not a spread-option QB after half a season and switched to a more traditional pro-style offense with Leak under center. They won a national title. He went back to what he liked once Tebow became the starter and won another. He was able to adapt to his talent. Kirby Smart's offense was pro-style to start under Chaney and morphed into more of a shotgun based spread under Monken and is now simply "multiple" in that they don't have a set style.
Deboer not being able to do that is a negative indicator for him as a coach.
This post was edited on 10/20/24 at 11:23 am
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:20 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
Milroe was phenomenal against a good Georgia defense.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:21 am to supersaints9
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So he can’t scheme to be successful with a roster littered with 4 and 5 star athletes?
Not when your QB throws 90% of his passes off target by 3-5 yards and your OL can't block shite.
Are you new to college football or just this bad at trolling?
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:21 am to geaux2019
quote:Chalk that game up to a fluke in every aspect.
Milroe was phenomenal against a good Georgia defense.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:21 am to geaux2019
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Milroe was phenomenal against a good Georgia defense.
For a half.
I'm starting to think that has more to do with Kirby just being incapable of not shitting the bed in fear when facing Alabama than Alabama actually being better.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:22 am to DawginSC
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This is a failing for a coach.
Great coaches can change their system to fit their talent. Coaches who have to coach to a system are not great. Steve Spurrier when he went to SC went from a passing focused attack to a ball control attack... because that was the talent he had. And it worked. Mark Richt when he came to UGA had never used TEs or FB's much. But he had talent at those positions at UGA so he changed his offense to fit in (Randy McMichael was quite good). Urban Meyer even being a "system" coach realized that Chris Leak was not a spread-option QB after half a season and switched to a more traditional pro-style offense with Leak under center. They won a national title. He went back to what he liked once Tebow became the starter and won another. He was able to adapt to his talent.
Deboer not being able to do that is a negative indicator for him as a coach.
Yes, it's DeBoers fault Milroe was missing wide open receivers by 5 yards all afternoon.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:23 am to supersaints9
He should’ve never brought back Milroe. Milroe is not a good QB.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:24 am to TripleBarrelBluff1
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I see this is the part where LSU fans pretend they didn't mock Milroe's Heisman chances for a year and now pretend he's regressed because of coaching
I see this is the part where Alabama fans pretend they didn’t act like the dynasty would just keep rolling along all offseason and after the UGA victory.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:24 am to DawginSC
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Great coaches can change their system to fit their talent. Coaches who have to coach to a system are not great. Steve Spurrier when he went to SC went from a passing focused attack to a ball control attack... because that was the talent he had. And it worked. Mark Richt when he came to UGA had never used TEs or FB's much. But he had talent at those positions at UGA so he changed his offense to fit in (Randy McMichael was quite good). Urban Meyer even being a "system" coach realized that Chris Leak was not a spread-option QB after half a season and switched to a more traditional pro-style offense with Leak under center. They won a national title. He went back to what he liked once Tebow became the starter and won another. He was able to adapt to his talent. Kirby Smart's offense was pro-style to start under Chaney and morphed into more of a shotgun based spread under Monken and is now simply "multiple" in that they don't have a set style.
PS: Urban Meyer only won NC's with big QB's who could fall forward over and over. No clue what the hell you are talking about.
Posted on 10/20/24 at 11:25 am to 3down10
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Yes, it's DeBoers fault Milroe was missing wide open receivers by 5 yards all afternoon.
If you have a run first QB who's success comes largely from the threat to run... you're making a mistake if you try to transform him into a pocket passer. Same is true if you have an immobile QB and you constantly try to make him pass on the run or do a bunch of QB runs.
You call the plays to fit your talent. You don't call plays that doesn't fit your talent and then blame them when they don't have success doing what they aren't good at.
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