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re: The criticism of Brian Kelly is interesting

Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:53 am to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 5/9/24 at 10:53 am to
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This is a funny statement. Thank you for proving everyone's point. They have been an elite program. They just haven't won any big post-season games because they haven't had a great coach since Holtz. 


Even a bad coach can win a major bowl game at a truly elite program over a 30 year span.

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The facilities, revenue, fan support, and talent say they are elite. 


This is objectively false, you're living in the past.

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During Brian Kelly's tenure at Notre Dame, he out-recruited LSU several years.


He may have a year or two here or there, that doesn't change the fact that LSU will overall have more talent than Notre Dame.

Kelly's two LSU teams are the most talented he's ever had, on paper.
Posted by 195bc
Member since Mar 2022
61 posts
Posted on 5/9/24 at 11:12 am to
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This is a funny statement. Thank you for proving everyone's point. They have been an elite program. They just haven't won any big post-season games because they haven't had a great coach since Holtz.


Even a bad coach can win a major bowl game at a truly elite program over a 30 year span.

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The facilities, revenue, fan support, and talent say they are elite.


This is objectively false, you're living in the past.

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During Brian Kelly's tenure at Notre Dame, he out-recruited LSU several years.


He may have a year or two here or there, that doesn't change the fact that LSU will overall have more talent than Notre Dame.

Kelly's two LSU teams are the most talented he's ever had, on paper.



1. Kelly never won a major bowl game at Notre Dame. But Notre has been elite for 80 years.

2. Notre Dame has great facilities. Notre Dame has top-tier revenue. Notre Dame has excellent fan support. They have elite history. They have eight double-digit win seasons since 2010. They have the ninth most players in the NFL. They've been to the playoff or BCS championship three times since 2010. Those are called facts. And those facts show that ND is an elite program that had a coach that couldn't win a big game. I probably need to remind you that Notre Dame has been to the BSC Championship game and playoffs more times since 2010 than LSU. So if Notre isn't elite, LSU isn't elite. But LSU is elite, and so it Notre Dame. And Kelly will do exactly, or worse, at LSU as he did at Notre Dame ... and that is win zero championships.

3. So you say Kelly's two teams at LSU have the most talent he's ever had. Even though LSU recruiting in 2024 is not good by SEC standards, you may be right. But oh, remind me how many playoff appearances he's had the past two years? How many SEC championships did he have the past two years? With all that talent and a Heisman winner, he finished 3rd in the DIVISION last year. You continue to help make the point that Kelly is a mediocre coach. And as mentioned, the recruiting this year fell even further behind in the SEC, so his talent pool compared to other SEC schools is getting worse.

I feel like I'm arguing with a child ... that also has a mental disability.
This post was edited on 5/9/24 at 11:27 am
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