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re: Honest discussion about NIL. Would love to hear thoughts.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:24 am to ALhunter
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:24 am to ALhunter
The schools just hate revenue sharing. It costs them money. It’s the only way out though. Share revenue, collectively bargain, sign contracts. Works in the NFL.
Oh. It was never NIL. It’s been pay for play the whole time.
My you rot in h3ll Ed O’bannon.
Oh. It was never NIL. It’s been pay for play the whole time.
My you rot in h3ll Ed O’bannon.
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:42 am to Smoke Test
quote:The NFL system is transparent and dependent on open books and access to contracts, so the NFL system works because there is no real mechanism for "cheating" the system.
The schools just hate revenue sharing. It costs them money. It’s the only way out though. Share revenue, collectively bargain, sign contracts. Works in the NFL.
Oh. It was never NIL. It’s been pay for play the whole time.
Skirting the rules for sign stealing, coaching hires, and inducing players to ask for trades are dealt with rather than ignored, with significant penalties.
Pity the fool that tries to skirt the salary cap and gets busted.
The Antitrust issues with the NFL have been molded over a long period of time, though numerous legal precedents, and are continuously scrutinized by public, private and governmental organizations at many levels.
The NFL system won't work for college.
Private schools don't share their information, while the public schools are subject to open records access.
The notion of collective bargaining and salary caps is a joke. The rampant cheating that existed in the past would just be business as usual, with under the table deals the norm rather than the exception.
Revenue sharing, by definition, means the schools share/pay for everything,
Why should every school pay the same % revenue or the same $/year?
That is not fair, or equitable for the schools. Every school chooses what is best for them, to build or not build better facilities, including food options and amenities, suites and private boxes, scheduling of out of conference opponents, ticket prices, cost and quality of merchandise, etc.
The bigger, better programs would generate more revenue, have more to share, and theoretically get better because they have more to spend. The only difference is the schools pay for it rather than the collectives, alumni groups, associations, NIL partners, etc.
Now, each conference or entity negotiates their own media contracts, with the built in inequalities. Big difference compared to the NFL.
Transfer rules need some benchmarks, but the college football world needs a unified position that would meet antitrust guidelines. Sending some jake-leg state delegation to lobby congress is not the right way.
The Title IX congressional hearings ended with a Federal mandate for compliance, under the purview of the NCAA. Since then, college football has systematically neutered the NCAA, and now some are looking for the NCAA to bail them out, with government oversight. Be careful what you ask for.
The system has always been tilted, its just tilted in a different direction right now.
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:33 pm to Smoke Test
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The schools just hate revenue sharing. It costs them money. It’s the only way out though. Share revenue, collectively bargain, sign contracts. Works in the NFL.
Oh. It was never NIL. It’s been pay for play the whole time.
My you rot in h3ll Ed O’bannon.
There is no revenue to share unless you want to take it away from all the other sports because there are only 1 or 2 sports that draw income.
You'll be removing the scholarships of thousands and thousands of kids across the country, screwing over 99% of NCAA athletes for the benefit of less than 1% of them.
Because all the money that is earned is put back into the program itself as well as other sports. In exchange, they are given an education worth probably 6 figures or close to it. Top Notch medical care. About 25k a year in cash, housing, food and in many schools coaching and a support staff to help them launch a career in the NFL.
It's 100% voluntary and if someones was to try and spend their own money to get these kinds of benefits, they'd be looking at spending probably between 500k to $1 million or more depending on the quality of training and mentoring they bought. Most of them down there at Rex Kwon Do and Football facility.
The NFL doesn't want them, and they have no draw to viewers unless they are playing for their school. Other leagues try to start up, offer no fricking support, no housing, no real training, and pay their players around 50k a year in taxable money, so around say 40k take home. When they get about 25k in cash before taking the rest into account.
What needs to be done is for the government to butt the frick out of it, and the schools tell the kids - you can take it or leave it. Nobody is forcing them to go, there are thousands of kids out there who would love for the schools to "take advantage of them" in their place.
frick entitlement society.
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