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re: Interesting tweet. Most wins in SEC since 2017.
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:28 am to Wolfhound45
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:28 am to Wolfhound45
The thing that is the most confusing to me is how "awful" a lot of A&M folks seemed to think hiring Stoops would be but the same people are ecstatic at Elko?
I get that maybe they think Elko has a higher ceiling (based on what exactly I don't really know) and that they are familiar with him, but Stoops at a place where he can sign Top 10 classes everywhere could be a very good program. Is his ceiling lower than you might want? I can see that, but I can also see a guy who gets more explosive players and consistently wins 9-10 games.
Elko could do the same thing, but it's just weird how similar they seem to be style wise and all that and the total 180 in reactions to them. I mean Stoops and his staff (especially Marrow) have proven to be very solid recruiters. In the SEC, recruiting against tier 2 SEC programs and tier 1B B1G programs........outside their state. Elko's big conference recruiting chops are basically TBD.
I get that maybe they think Elko has a higher ceiling (based on what exactly I don't really know) and that they are familiar with him, but Stoops at a place where he can sign Top 10 classes everywhere could be a very good program. Is his ceiling lower than you might want? I can see that, but I can also see a guy who gets more explosive players and consistently wins 9-10 games.
Elko could do the same thing, but it's just weird how similar they seem to be style wise and all that and the total 180 in reactions to them. I mean Stoops and his staff (especially Marrow) have proven to be very solid recruiters. In the SEC, recruiting against tier 2 SEC programs and tier 1B B1G programs........outside their state. Elko's big conference recruiting chops are basically TBD.
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Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
Personally, I don't think Stoops can replicate his UK success at A&M. He actively avoids recruiting against SEC powers at UK, and relies on selling Ohio kids on playing in the SEC while staying close to home.
It's a unique situation, and Stoops has it figured out well. But A&M will be totally different. We have to go head to head against bascially every power program in the SEC West for every recruit within 500 miles of campus. Stoops built his success at UK on proactively avoiding the situation A&M lives in every day. To me it's a terrible fit, and it's much better for A&M, Stoops, and UK all three that he's staying in Lexington.
It's a unique situation, and Stoops has it figured out well. But A&M will be totally different. We have to go head to head against bascially every power program in the SEC West for every recruit within 500 miles of campus. Stoops built his success at UK on proactively avoiding the situation A&M lives in every day. To me it's a terrible fit, and it's much better for A&M, Stoops, and UK all three that he's staying in Lexington.
This post was edited on 11/27/23 at 11:44 am
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The thing that is the most confusing to me is how "awful" a lot of A&M folks seemed to think hiring Stoops would be but the same people are ecstatic at Elko?
It wasn’t a “Stoops is awful” reaction.
It was a “wtf are you doing, what happened to hiring Elko” reaction…
Posted on 11/27/23 at 11:51 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The thing that is the most confusing to me is how "awful" a lot of A&M folks seemed to think hiring Stoops would be but the same people are ecstatic at Elko? I get that maybe they think Elko has a higher ceiling (based on what exactly I don't really know) and that they are familiar with him, but Stoops at a place where he can sign Top 10 classes everywhere could be a very good program. Is his ceiling lower than you might want? I can see that, but I can also see a guy who gets more explosive players and consistently wins 9-10 games. Elko could do the same thing, but it's just weird how similar they seem to be style wise and all that and the total 180 in reactions to them. I mean Stoops and his staff (especially Marrow) have proven to be very solid recruiters. In the SEC, recruiting against tier 2 SEC programs and tier 1B B1G programs........outside their state. Elko's big conference recruiting chops are basically TBD.
The backlash and response truly started when folks realized how much money he made and that his contract would probably closely resemble what Fisher had left on his deal.
Nobody wanted to be boat anchored to Mark Stoops past his expiration if he went 7-5 every year. And there’s perhaps an irrational fear we were going to be used as another opportunity for a huge payday with little motivation for the coach to provide any results.
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