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re: Y'all really think TAMU has improved since Miami blew them out?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 4:28 pm to BigBro
Posted on 10/2/23 at 4:28 pm to BigBro
Lots of solid points, and I agree with much of it.
That being said, "can't stop the pass" is a blanket statement that just doesn't hold up. If you have an OL that can at least buy a few seconds AND a route scheme that can get an open look quickly AND a QB that has the pocket presence to find them and be willing to take the hits coming his way, then, yeah, you can beat it.
That's a lot of if's, but certainly doable.
I think back to the one of the best games that was played while I was at A&M (and which I missed because I was in the ER after getting T-boned by a 60 mph Caddy). Houston came in averaging 60 points a game and undefeated the year Andre Ware won the Heisman. At MYP the night before, RC Slocum said A&M was going to introduce the "Run & Shoot" to the "Blitz & Destroy".
A&M LB's were all over Ware all day long. Can't remember how many times he was sacked, but it was a lot, and A&M won 17-13. On one of the sacks, Ware's helmet came off and Aaron Wallace held it up like a trophy.
My point: IF you can beat the blitz, then you can beat the defense. With our secondary, this high-risk/high reward is what we have. Maybe it will work. Maybe it won't. To say they can't stop the pass, though, is just a silly overstatement.
As Chris Berman says, "That's why they play the game."
That being said, "can't stop the pass" is a blanket statement that just doesn't hold up. If you have an OL that can at least buy a few seconds AND a route scheme that can get an open look quickly AND a QB that has the pocket presence to find them and be willing to take the hits coming his way, then, yeah, you can beat it.
That's a lot of if's, but certainly doable.
I think back to the one of the best games that was played while I was at A&M (and which I missed because I was in the ER after getting T-boned by a 60 mph Caddy). Houston came in averaging 60 points a game and undefeated the year Andre Ware won the Heisman. At MYP the night before, RC Slocum said A&M was going to introduce the "Run & Shoot" to the "Blitz & Destroy".
A&M LB's were all over Ware all day long. Can't remember how many times he was sacked, but it was a lot, and A&M won 17-13. On one of the sacks, Ware's helmet came off and Aaron Wallace held it up like a trophy.
My point: IF you can beat the blitz, then you can beat the defense. With our secondary, this high-risk/high reward is what we have. Maybe it will work. Maybe it won't. To say they can't stop the pass, though, is just a silly overstatement.
As Chris Berman says, "That's why they play the game."
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Posted on 10/2/23 at 4:30 pm to Ag Zwin
CFB has changed since the days of the Wrecking Crew. Also, A&M had NFL corners that allowed the defense to tee off on Houston that day.
They certainly don't now. CB is painfully thin and lacking elite talent
They certainly don't now. CB is painfully thin and lacking elite talent
Posted on 10/2/23 at 4:52 pm to ColoradoAg
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CFB has changed since the days of the Wrecking Crew. Also, A&M had NFL corners that allowed the defense to tee off on Houston that day.
I never said otherwise. My basic point stands, though.
If you have an above-average pass rush and a below-average pass coverage, it comes down to whether or not their QB can find the open guy and get the ball off fast enough.
If they can, they do well. If they can't, they get Arkied. Hell, we saw it in the game this weekend. Arky had 150 yards of offense early in the 4Q, and that number was going down. It got to 125, then they hit a 50 yard bomb because our DB got blown out of his socks.
It can work. It can blow up in your face.
To make it a blanket statement that A&M "can't stop the pass", though, is silly.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 10/2/23 at 4:56 pm to Shaft Williams
They look like a solid team. This feels like a better TAMU team than in previous years.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 4:58 pm to Ag Zwin
AgZwin,
I am always thankful I was able to watch the Wrecking Crew play.
I am always thankful I was able to watch the Wrecking Crew play.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:04 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Welp... BY didn't play vs Aggie last year. So there's no real difference there. That's why Milroe is 1-0 as a starter vs Aggie and he turned it over three times. And there are differences. BAMA's defense isn't saddled with Pete Golding as D-coordinator, and is already light years better than last year's crew. Milroe is gonna Milroe. He's gonna throw for 200ish and rush for 80ish. We will get 80-90 yards from Jase and 60-70 yards from Roydell. Aggie will turn it over, and BAMA will win this game in the neighborhood of 37-20. It'll be close for a half. Aggie scores late garbage TD to make it looks quasi-respectble.
Nope. We have way more talent at WR than last year. Way more. And we have many more weapons. And we aren’t playing with a QB that isn’t prepared. And perhaps the biggest difference is the offense isn’t being called by Jimbo.
Petrino will move the ball and score 35 points on Bama. For sure. He’s extremely creative and will have the skill players dialed in and the game plan will be WAY better than what Jimbo ever did.
Think Arkansas coach when they were good with way better talent. That’s who’s running the offense now.
We will score 35 on you. Easy. And our defense will stop the run so you’re gonna have to pass deep to beat us.
And you don’t have Miami’s QB. You just don’t.
So it’s not going be a fun day for Bama. But we will let you drink our beer and wish you a safe trip home.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:05 pm to ColoradoAg
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I am always thankful I was able to watch the Wrecking Crew play.
Agreed.
No time since have I personally known of a defense that could dictate the game the way Slocum's could. THAT was when Kyle Field was an intimidating place. LSU does a better job of that than we do right now, from what I can tell.
This play (my freshman year, and I was there) will always be the embodiment of that time. My ears rang for days, and that was when the stadium only held (officially) about 72K. The refs just let the QB stand there for 2 minutes, thinking that would quiet the place. The roar that erupted when he finally went under center was awesome.
12th Man at 1985 Texas game.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:14 pm to Ag Zwin
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Maybe it will work. Maybe it won't. To say they can't stop the pass, though, is just a silly overstatement.
I agree, but Idk where you see “can’t stop the pass”.. was this my comment? If it is, I don’t see it, unless it was on a different comment.
I was just saying that Passing D is A&M’s weakness this year.. it flip flopped from last year, at least so far..
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:20 pm to BigBro
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I agree, but Idk where you see “can’t stop the pass”.. was this my comment?
Nope. Was a Dirt Burgler much earlier in the thread.
FTR, I actually have a degree from Texas, too.
Slap those guys around this weekend, would ya?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:22 pm to BigBro
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was just saying that Passing D is A&M’s weakness this year.
I pray that Bamas QB starts to pass and we are forced to bring blitzes after blitzes. I pray this happens.
Bama tries to throw deep he’s going home with an injury. That DL is way to fast and strong. He will have maybe two seconds in the pocket to throw. Maybe 2.5. It won’t be enough time to scan the field and throw deep.
Watch A&M destroy Arkansas’s line. They will have to run the ball and frankly it’s not going to work. We have the line to stop them.
In the past they had a QB and deep threats to win. No more.
Bama isn’t winning at Kyle. It’s not going to happen.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:23 pm to BigSneezy
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Petrino will move the ball and score 35 points on Bama.
Under imo, unless there are turnovers..
Alabama is better than they were last year imo
I said it after our game, and no one believed me, they probably still don’t believe me
Alabama is going to come after Max, and he has a tendency to get rattled. Quinn does too.. but Sark called the game accordingly.
I don’t think Max gets rid of the ball as quick as Ewers.. but maybe Petrino dials it up this week.
I think both offenses are going to really struggle if the DC bring consistent pressure. Both teams will struggle to run the ball as well.
if I was an A&M fan, I would be worried Max doesn’t finish. He runs like he is Ricky Williams out there.. dude needs to learn to slide.
This post was edited on 10/2/23 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:28 pm to BigBro
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Alabama is better than they were last year imo I said it after our game, and no one believed me, they probably still don’t believe me
This is false. They are NOT better. No where close. And the OL will keep Max doing just fine.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:28 pm to BigBro
Not having Weigman really hurts A&M for this one. He's much better at reading the field and getting rid of the ball. And Johnson is the opposite. He tends to hold onto the ball too long.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:30 pm to BigSneezy
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In the past they had a QB and deep threats to win. No more. Bama isn’t winning at Kyle. It’s not going to happen.
Milroe has flaws in his game at this point, but he throws a great deep ball, and he has some talent to throw to, some are just raw or young. He will also escape the pocket some, spy or no spy.. it’s going to happen. If he takes care of the ball, they will be in the game.
The game is a coin flip imo.. Either one could win by 2-3 tds with some turnovers.. but maybe I’m wrong.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:31 pm to BigSneezy
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This is false. They are NOT better. No where close. And the OL will keep Max doing just fine.
ok, i’ll ask you after the game then
we played them last year too, you know
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:32 pm to ColoradoAg
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Not having Weigman really hurts A&M for this one. He's much better at reading the field and getting rid of the ball. And Johnson is the opposite. He tends to hold onto the ball too long.
I like CW a lot, and he gets rid of the ball quick, I agree. He is a better runner too imo, but it’s a little more awkward looking.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:32 pm to BigBro
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we played them last year too, you know
And Texas is a lot better this year.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:33 pm to ColoradoAg
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ot having Weigman really hurts A&M for this one. He's much better at reading the field and getting rid of the ball. And Johnson is the opposite. He tends to hold onto the ball too long.
But he’s way more durable and way more able to run. Honestly, I think it’s about the skills players. Not the QB. Johnson was throwing dimes against Arkansas. And he did the same against Auburn.
Watch the tape. He’s playing tons better than last year. It’s almost like Petrino actually coached him more.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:34 pm to BigSneezy
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It’s almost like Petrino actually coached
That's all that needed to be said.
Jimbo should have been fired as OC years ago.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:34 pm to BigBro
Alabama is a bad matchup for A&M defense. Milroe sucks at the intermediate stuff, but he can throw the deep ball. A&M's corners suck against the deep ball. I'm still not convinced that Durkin won't do something stupid like play three down linemen.
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