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re: Sam Horn

Posted on 9/7/23 at 10:35 am to
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 10:35 am to
"And he missed the wide open receiver downfield which would have been an easy 70 yard touchdown.

He locked onto the receiver.

He threw it behind him.

He blew that play."

Watched the endzone of that multiple times it was a flood right roll out. The deep reciever was the correct route to hit, the flat was covered and the middle route was open. He threw it behind the middle reciever who still should have made the catch (it hit his hands you make the damn catch). His read was not "wrong" his read was not optimal. Since we are castigating him for making the sub optimal read and throw are we doing the same on Cook. He threw twice into double coverage and one extreemly late and high to Wease on a 4rd odwn, which lkead to Meavis; 1st miss. Now do I think Horn should start over Cook? I cannot say that as I am not in practice or QB rooom everyday. Cook obviously has a better grasp of the offense and has the support of the team. He does though lack the arm talent of a top notch SEC QB, that I can see. I am also worried that no mater who walks through the door Drink will stay with Cook another 2 more years. The fact that a QB with his limitations is set to be a 4 year starter should be a problem to any Tiger fan.
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 10:45 am
Posted by JBlutarsky
Member since Mar 2016
361 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:12 pm to
Thank you for your well-reasoned and insightful response.

I hope that Sam Horn becomes the greatest quarterback in Mizzou history.

My point, which many on here keep ignoring, is that he's not ready to be anointed the GOAT yet.

I'm not a fan of the Cook bashing either. All he's done is give his heart and soul to Mizzou and folks here trash him constantly.

Not a fan of that.

Best case scenario is that Horn gets multiple reps throughout the season and eventually takes the #1 spot from Cook.

M I Z
This post was edited on 9/7/23 at 3:02 pm
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
5854 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Watched the endzone of that multiple times it was a flood right roll out. The deep reciever was the correct route to hit, the flat was covered and the middle route was open. He threw it behind the middle reciever


There are many different variations of a Flood Rollout this play was similar but not one. Instead of the 3 WR’s on one side they used 2 receivers and a TE in the slot to block. When Peat came out of the backfield the CB that was on Wease took Peat. Wease ran a Go route up the middle angling to the far sideline. Wease’s route took the S out of the middle of the field.

The OLB covered Horn and the MLB had to cover the TE. This leaves the middle of the field wide open. Miller was supposed to run a 10-15 yard route and turn to the middle and because his CB is 3 to 5 yards off he is open.

Horn focused on 1 receiver because that is what the play calls for. He threw it behind him because that is where the ball is supposed to be thrown. He threw it low because Miller ran the wrong route and that is the only place to throw where the CB doesn’t have a play on the ball. Miller’s hands were flat and he tried to catch the ball off his chest which caused the ball to fly up.

Another reason he wouldn’t throw it deep on that play is because he is moving to his right. Horn has a great arm, but throwing across your body in coverage would have been dumb.

Instead of passing Horn could have ran for 2 to 3 yards like Cook does or throw the ball away, but he made the right read and threw it to where only his receiver could catch it.

Bannister has ran similar routes the past few years.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15017 posts
Posted on 9/7/23 at 5:32 pm to
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lack the arm talent of a top notch SEC QB, that I can see. I am also worried that no mater who walks through the door Drink will stay with Cook another 2 more years. The fact that a QB with his limitations is set to be a 4 year starter should be a problem to any Tiger fan.

Not a problem if Drinkwitz can't get the wins he needs to keep his job. So, two more years isn't likely going to happen if the wins aren't there.
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