re: Deion is becoming more and more unlikeable

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WILL NEVER HIRE A BLACK HEAD COACH. Prove me wrong

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Alabama's two most recent basketball coaches, prior to the current coach, were both black. It is clear Alabama has no problem hiring black coaches.

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Are you really going to puff your chest with 5 coaches at 4 schools (Vandy hired 2) in 90 years of SEC football?

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There's no chest puffing going on here. I'm examining your claims. You said that SEC schools do not hire black coaches and I said that was an objectively false claim, seeing as SEC schools have hired black coaches. I then went on to say that if you narrowed the scope of your claim then you'd be more accurate.

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TAM hired Sumlin when they were in the B12, so he really doesn't count.

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Sumlin becoming the coach before A&M officially joined the SEC doesn't help your case. First of all, A&M is an SEC school and they had a black head coach at some point in time during their tenure in the SEC, so that still counts. Secondly, he became the head coach after it was finalized that A&M would join the SEC, so a team that was in the process of joining the SEC hired a black coach. Lastly, the SEC let A&M join even though they had hired a black coach, and to my knowledge, there was no racial uproar about that decision.

And even if you threw out Sumlin as an example, that still doesn't counter the reality that other SEC schools have hired black coaches. So like I said, if you want to narrow the scope of your claim, you can be more accurate.

The onus is on you to back up your claims or insinuations of racism.

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Plus look at how quick they got rid of him even after he had a better record than Jimbo.

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Quick? He was the head coach at A&M from 2012 to 2018 (6 seasons). That's not quick at all, as many coaches have been fired in shorter periods of time. Will Muschamp's tenure at Florida was 2 seasons shorter, for example. Also, Sumlin's best finish was 2nd in the West in his first year (with Johnny Manziel), and he consistently went 4th or 5th in the West during his time there. Fisher has a similar record but has two 2nd place finishes and a 3rd place finish. Last season was his worst season, and he could very well get canned if he doesn't turn things around this season, and that would give him as many seasons as Sumlin if he were fired. Hardly an example of racism so far.

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The SEC has been integrated with players for 55+ years and only 4 teams have ever hired ONE.

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That's a true statement, however that doesn't mean they won't ever hire a black coach, and it doesn't prove there are racial motivations behind the lack of hiring of black coaches. That's on you to prove.

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Okay, let's put it this way, Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida, UGA, USC, Mizzou, and Tennessee WILL NEVER HIRE A BLACK HEAD COACH. Prove me wrong...

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How can you be proven wrong today about a claim of what will or will not happen in the future? If UGA hires their first black head coach 100 years from now, that would prove you wrong, but there's no way for me or anyone else to know that, so instead of making such outlandish claims, why don't you prove that racism is the cause of the shortage of black head coaches?

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Are you really trying to convince me, us, yourself that the 4 schools hiring 5 black head coaches in the history of the league, currently with no black head coaches in half a decade is good?

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I'm not making a claim of good, bad, or otherwise. You said that no SEC team will ever hire a black head coach and I said that you were factually wrong about that, as multiple SEC schools have hired black head coaches.

And for the record, I don't care what the skin color of the head coaches are. I don't think it's good or bad that there have been few black head coaches. I'm not in charge of hiring, but I believe the coaches that give a team the best chance at winning are the right coaches for the job, regardless of the color of their skin. I don't believe that hiring someone based on social justice quotas is a good thing. I don't believe that there has to be proportional representation of racial demographics in every position based on the make up of the country. If I did, I'd be pushing for more whites and Hispanics playing football, but I don't care about the racial makeup of any of those positions, coaches or players. I'd support a successful black QB or head coach at UGA just as much as I'd support successful white QBs or head coaches.

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You then claimed that Deion didn't have enough experience??? He coached ~10 years before Jackson State.

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The bulk of Sanders' coaching experience was with high schools, including a few years at an academy that he co-founded. High School coaching experience alone doesn't qualify a person for D1 FBS coaching gigs. Jackson State was his first "real" experience, and it was an FCS school, so it wasn't quite on the same level as being a coordinator or assistant at a D1 FBS school, which is where a lot of head coaches at that level come from. What is typical for coaching advancement has nothing to do with skin color.

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Did Ron Zook, Will Muschamp, Jim Shark fricker McElwain or Billy Napier have more Head coaching experience? Which one of them had/have more credentials than Deion, on and off the field?

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Ron Zook had over 20 years of coaching experience between D1 FBS schools and NFL teams before becoming a head coach for the first time.

Will Muschamp had 15 years of coaching experience at D1 FBS schools and the NFL before getting his first head coaching job.

Jim McElwain had over 25 years of coaching experience at D1 FBS schools and the NFL before getting his first head coaching job.

Lastly, Bill Napier had 15 years of coaching experience before getting his first head coaching job.

Deion had less than 10 years of coaching experience at the high school level before getting his first shot at being a head coach at an FCS school, and then got his first FBS head coaching job after just three years. Deion got his first FBS head coaching job faster than all of the other men you listed. How is that racism?

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You also said it's about winning not color. Ask Sumlin or even Deion who had a better record in his first 3 years than Mike Norvell in his.

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Why first 3 years? Sumlin stayed at A&M for 6 seasons, not 3. Deion had no FBS coaching experience prior to this season. Mike Norvell got his shot at head coaching after 10 seasons coaching at lower levels in college.

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What's really sad is the same folks that are calling out Deion, will NEVER, EVER call out the hypocrisy in the sport. You see what you want to see.

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What hypocrisy are you referring to, specifically? I am happy to call out Deion's race-based commentary because I believe it is completely unnecessary and a distraction from the good things he's bringing to Colorado. If you point to evidence of racism (other than disparate results, which may occur without racism being involved), I'd be happy to call that out and get angry with you, but when you pull the race card at every turn, you start acting like the boy who cried wolf, and accusations of racism begin to lose their effectiveness. Save it for real acts of racism.

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Okay, let's put it this way, Bama, LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, Arkansas, Florida, UGA, USC, Mizzou, and Tennessee WILL NEVER HIRE A BLACK HEAD COACH. Prove me wrong...

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Uga would strongly consider Mel tucker if he began to prove his chops and Kirby decided to quit. Fran brown has that potential as well.