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re: Deion is becoming more and more unlikeable

Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:02 am to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 11:02 am to
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There is no double standard.
When one person can say something and have it be considered acceptable and another person can say the same thing and be called a racist, then there is a double standard.

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Black head coaches are fricking unicorns.
Same for the NFL, who has anti-racism rules in place to mitigate against inequitable hiring processes based on race or skin color.

When you look at assistant coaches, the representation changes drastically. There are several teams in the SEC alone that have 50/50 black/white assistant coaches or more black assistant coaches than white assistant coaches. Clearly it isn't racism that is preventing coaches from being hired generally.

It should also be noted that there aren't very many head coaches at all, at least compared to the number of players, assistants, and other personnel. There are thousands of players and former players for every one head coach, so the competition is great for those positions, and even at that, most programs are looking for a winner when looking for a head coach, and there are fewer of those compared to the larger pool of available options for coaching positions. It's why so many have to work their way up and be part of a winning program somewhere (like Deion did, though he had name recognition going for him, as well). It's also a completely different skillset than being a player. There are a lot of great players who are terrible coaches, and great coaches that weren't very good as players, so player demographics don't necessarily translate to coaching demographics. There are several reasons why this is the case that don't involve anti-black racism.

Very few placekickers and punters go on to become head coaches. Does that mean there is anti-kicker bias in hiring? We have to be careful with assuming that correlation equals causation.

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Somebody here said Sanders will coach at Auburn or Bama, heck, I wanted him over Napier at UF but we are all fooling ourselves. Ed Orgerons grand son, if he ever has one, or you and I have a better chance of coaching in the SEC than Sanders.
That's speculation based on the assumption of racism. Even in the example of Ed Orgeron's grand son, what you're mistakenly doing is proving that there are other factors at play, including association to winning programs, however what you're denying is that if Sanders is successful at a D1 school--especially one that has been "down" for decades--that he won't get a look from SEC programs. If you think football in the south would rather continue losing than hire a black coach that can help a team win, you are mistaken. There is too much money at stake turn down a proven winner simply because of what he looks like.

The fact of the matter is that it costs millions of dollars to hire (and even fire) a head coach, especially for competitive football schools. Programs generally don't want to throw that sort of money at untested and unproven coaches. Deion now has a track record of success in coaching, which is the only reason a school like Colorado would pay him so much to coach there. Very few schools are going to hire a coach of any color who has no experience in team building and winning at some level.

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The SEC has ZERO black head coaches and only 5 in the 90 year history of the league. It will never happen. The standard ain’t double, it is in plain sight for all to see.
Again, you assume the reason for few black coaches is due to some double standard. Perhaps in decades past race played a huge factor in hiring decisions, but these days, money talks. White coaches are fired all the time for bad results on the field.

And what do you mean by "it will never happen"? Doesn't the fact that black head coaches have been hired prove that Sanders coming to the SEC could happen? If not, what number of black head coaches need to be hired before you change your mind? Another 5? 25? 125?

For my part, I don't care what color skin the head coach of our school has.

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Most folks here can’t even name 2 ex SEC black coaches without looking it up, yet you say Sanders is playing the race card? fricking comical guy.
You sound like you've bought into CRT ideology like I was describing. You assume a particular motive because the results don't look the way you think they should.
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