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Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:14 am
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:14 am
1. This all starts and stops with Saban. We have an undisciplined team and that starts at the top. It’s been penalties left and right all year. We are seven games in now. There is no fixing it. With that said…
2. Most of the ones yesterday were legit. The non-targeting was a joke and the PI on Moore was terrible and that one ultimately probably cost the game. Still shouldn’t have put ourselves in that position.
3. Getting to 50-yard FG range and not managing the clock better is inexcusable. Run the ball once, make UT call timeouts or drain time down if you’re settling (which is dumb). Gibbs could’ve helped us by catching a fairly easy pass but we also could’ve removed any risk by calling one run play.
4. Special teams continue to be special.
5. Golding and Saban got abused by Heupel in planning and adjusting. How long were we going to keep matching a safety against their only real deep threat? Heupel did a good job game planning and we didn’t adjust at all.
This team and program are still very good. If everything goes right we can still make it to Atlanta and maybe we’ll get another shot at the Vols. Biggest frustration is all the self-inflicted stuff and that’s been constant all year. Hard to see it getting better.
2. Most of the ones yesterday were legit. The non-targeting was a joke and the PI on Moore was terrible and that one ultimately probably cost the game. Still shouldn’t have put ourselves in that position.
3. Getting to 50-yard FG range and not managing the clock better is inexcusable. Run the ball once, make UT call timeouts or drain time down if you’re settling (which is dumb). Gibbs could’ve helped us by catching a fairly easy pass but we also could’ve removed any risk by calling one run play.
4. Special teams continue to be special.
5. Golding and Saban got abused by Heupel in planning and adjusting. How long were we going to keep matching a safety against their only real deep threat? Heupel did a good job game planning and we didn’t adjust at all.
This team and program are still very good. If everything goes right we can still make it to Atlanta and maybe we’ll get another shot at the Vols. Biggest frustration is all the self-inflicted stuff and that’s been constant all year. Hard to see it getting better.
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Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:17 am to Bham Bammer
I agree with all. It sucks because we should have won and a win would have broken them for good.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:25 am to Bham Bammer
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We have an undisciplined team and that starts at the top. It’s been penalties left and right all year. We are seven games in now. There is no fixing it.
You must not spend much time around teenagers. Kids, even 5 star athletes, are just wired different today. They all basically have ADHD from social media overload. I would bet that 75% would test out as illiterate by 1970s standards.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:31 am to RTRinTampa
The 3rd point of yours is the biggest head scratcher to me. I have no clue why we threw 3 passes at that time. Run the ball a few times, gain some yards, make them burn the timeouts, have a kick for the win or go straight into OT. That’s football 101 stuff
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:33 am to BobLobLaw199
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The 3rd point of yours is the biggest head scratcher to me. I have no clue why we threw 3 passes at that time. Run the ball a few times, gain some yards, make them burn the timeouts, have a kick for the win or go straight into OT. That’s football 101 stuff
All thr Bill O'Brien defendeders avoid this like the plague.
They can't actually defend his bad calls and decisions. All they can do is insult anyone who demands more or calls him out for it.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:36 am to YStar
Run the hurry up and snap it quick just to throw it away. Swear I nearly blew a head gasket watching those 3 plays
Posted on 10/16/22 at 8:42 am to Bham Bammer
Well said OP
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:18 am to RTRinTampa
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You must not spend much time around teenagers.
1. You couldn't be more wrong.
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Kids, even 5 star athletes, are just wired different today. They all basically have ADHD from social media overload. I would bet that 75% would test out as illiterate by 1970s standards.
2. I don't really know what you're getting at here. We are literally in the bottom 5% of the nation in penalties. Every team in the country has players of similar ages and maturity levels. They aren't all committing penalties at the rate we are.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:21 am to Bham Bammer
Saban's coordinators are the best reflection of him right now. Until Saban gets hungry enough to do whats best for the program and go through a fire/reset mode, we are in a decline mode at the moment.............IF we go into next year with our current QBs and coaches, I don't to even think about it.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:22 am to BobLobLaw199
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Run the hurry up and snap it quick just to throw it away. Swear I nearly blew a head gasket watching those 3 plays
Me too. We had two timeouts and we just sprint up there with 35 seconds and throw it out of bounds on purpose.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:24 am to Shocco
I agree wholeheartedly. Saban is not as demanding as he once was and it shows in what he allows of his coaches and players. Listen - the past 15 years have spoiled us. We are still a great program, but we are clearly in a decline. Saban traded in high standards for continuity to the detriment of the overall product.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:29 am to Bham Bammer
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the PI on Moore was terrible
Why do you guys keep on with this bullshite? Moore literally had his arm around the guy's waist...just like the TN DB did on Bryce's heave into the endzone, even though that schmuck Danielson never saw it or mentioned it.
For every Bama fan bitching about the call on Moore, there's a Vol fan bitching about the PI in the endzone that bailed us out. The reality is that they were both the right call. Until we actually coach DBs out of the habit of wrapping their arm around the WR's waist, we're going to keep getting those calls.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:30 am to Bham Bammer
Blew out UGA in the SEC championship and were 2 all-american wide receiver injuries away from repeating as national champions. The decline is real.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:31 am to Bham Bammer
It is what it is. The law of averages will always catch up with you.
Through all the penalties, mistakes and dumb shite that happened yesterday. It all came down to a missed field goal again. Kicker does his job and Bama wins that game.
That's the story of Saban's Dynasty, missed field goals. How many more games would Bama have won under Saban if field goals were made?
Through all the penalties, mistakes and dumb shite that happened yesterday. It all came down to a missed field goal again. Kicker does his job and Bama wins that game.
That's the story of Saban's Dynasty, missed field goals. How many more games would Bama have won under Saban if field goals were made?
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:33 am to RollTide33
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Blew out UGA in the SEC championship and were 2 all-american wide receiver injuries away from repeating as national champions. The decline is real.
We were also a mindless play from Auburn's RB away from losing to them in a 6-6 year, with a bad passing backup QB who couldn't move, and being eliminated from the CFP before we even got to Atlanta.
Either way, none of that has anything to do with THIS version of Alabama football.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:39 am to BamaGradinTn
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For every Bama fan bitching about the call on Moore, there's a Vol fan bitching about the PI in the endzone that bailed us out. The reality is that they were both the right call.
They knocked our receiver down in the end zone.
Malachi didn’t knock him down, didn’t hold his arm down, and Malachi got a hand on the ball. It was great defense.
Of course you don’t see the difference bc you’re a fricking idiot.
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:45 am to CrimsonTideMD
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Malachi didn’t knock him down, didn’t hold his arm down, and Malachi got a hand on the ball. It was great defense.
Of course you don’t see the difference bc you’re a fricking idiot.
Tell me you're a fricking twenty something year old child without actually stating your age. If you actually had more brain cells than a turnip and had watched college football more than six weeks, you'd actually know that NONE of the things you mentioned negates pass interference. You don't have to hold his arm down, you don't have to knock him down, and getting a hand on the ball doesn't matter.
God, you really are this fricking stupid, aren't you? I mean, seriously
You're clearly utterly clueless about the rules.
This post was edited on 10/16/22 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/16/22 at 10:48 am to BamaGradinTn
I mean, all PI is a judgment call. It requires an "obvious intent" to prevent the WR from being able to make a play on a forward pass. His arm was around his waist. But was he pulling him back? I don't know. That wasn't obvious to me, and so I thought it was a bad call. But reasonable minds can disagree without resorting to name-calling. Right?
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:02 am to BamaGradinTn
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NONE of the things you mentioned negates pass interference
And if you weren’t such a mouth breathing douche, you might have noticed that I never made such a claim.
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God, you really are this fricking stupid, aren't you?
Yes, I’m very stupid.
Very very stupid. Just like you said I was in the NCG thread last year when I said Jameson’s knee was done.
Boy was I relieved that you were correct and his knee was fine, since he walked off the field.
Oh wait….
Posted on 10/16/22 at 11:04 am to Bham Bammer
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But reasonable minds can disagree without resorting to name-calling. Right?
Usually
Buts he’s a colossal POS.
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