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Some good points about Bob, article on RBR.

Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted by BFANLC
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 12:07 pm
Posted by bogeypro
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 3:05 pm to
from the article:
quote:

And much of this — if not most — falls squarely on the shoulders of coaching.


exactly. Stop blaming the players and start blaming the lack of coaching. We have serious problems on offense and it points to coach boob. It's time Saban addresses them.

from the comments:
quote:

Coordinators have one job - to put players in position to succeed. If players are not succeeding on a consistent basis, then the coordinator is not doing his job, unless there is a significant talent disparity which Bama doesn't have to worry about.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 5:09 pm to
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unless there is a significant talent disparity which Bama doesn't have to worry about.


Gonna have to disagree here- I dont like BoB, but there is only 1 OL that MAYBE could play on any of the OLs of the saban era and thats Latham... maybe. (Emil?) The rest would be scout teamers on past teams with NFL talent across the starting OL.

Also WRs not able to recognize zone coverage, and other WRs that flat out can not catch much less go up and snag a ball points to being down at WR compared to teams past. (We've been spoiled rotten at WR though lets be real)

If BoB had two first round WRs hed be looking a lot better, but he doesnt, and this is the least talented OL of the Saban era so that has exacerbated the situation.

They better find somebody with some speed that can stretch the field or that noose around our neck 10 yards from the LOS is gonna get even tighter as DCs start realizing we got nothing downfield.

Did somebody put concrete in Burtons cleats ? I think losing AAnderson and Earle was a big hit to this team in camp. Hopefully they get back soon
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 8:27 pm
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 5:37 pm to
We have NFL talent all around our offense and people say we need even more just to run a consistent offense.

No.

We don't need every position to have first round picks starting for us to move the ball consistently against Texas.

FFS
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 5:55 pm to
Bro... this OL is void of NFL talent like years past.

Bama dynasty is built on having the best players just ask Nick Saban he admits it publicly.

Fricken Nuss-pussy-meir won a title at Bama as OC- so did shark fricker.

We do not have our usual HUGE advantage at OL and WR so we are seeing more close games. Its a dogfight out there when youre not heads and shoulders better at OL

Edit* but i do agree the gameplan seems to be based on us having the usual talent, and it needs to be adjusted to scheme around our lack of talen especially at OL
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 6:01 pm
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:00 pm to
You don't need an NFL line to have consistent offense against Texas.

We still have a huge talent advantage in every area except RB and there we have way more depth.

You guys literally want an NFL roster against highschool level talent so you can beat your chest

That is silly.

It's called COACHING. That is why an inferior Texas can almost kick our arse.
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

You guys literally want an NFL roster against highschool level talent so you can beat your chest


Sorry my man, but the fact is this is the only way you can win a natty 50% of the time. This dynasty is not natural. Thats why its the best dynasty ever... in any sport
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:16 pm to
I'm sorry you don't understand the game.

We're literally the most talented team in the nation and we struggled against a team no where near our talent level and your excuse is we need more talent.

That is pathetic. You guys sound like women who hate accountability
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:40 pm to
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We're literally the most talented team in the nation and we struggled against a team no where near our talent level


247 has Bama at #1 in the talent compposite and Texas at #6, so let's not act like they have "nowhere near our talent level." Do we have more? Yes. But we're not talking about some insane talent gap.



2022 247 Talent Composite
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:52 pm to
You guys would literally melt this forum down if we had a class ranked that low... but now they aren't that different.

Smh.

This is all-time pathetic. We have the better team and people are trying to convince themselves we don't just because their brains can't comprehend coaches aren't paid to be cheerleaders.

They're paid to coach.
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 6:55 pm to
It's actually funny the same people who brag about how Alabama has the most draft picks, first rounders, etc.. will cry we don’t have enough talent.

Which one is it?

You guys sound about as confused as the LSU fans who cry about "Bama bump" then turn around and say Saban only wins because he has the most talent.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:09 pm to
Literally the only thing I'm saying in my post above is that you greatly exaggerated the talent discrepancy between the two teams.

You obviously want to spin and manipulate what I said to fit your narrative, but the image clearly shows the talent gap between Alabama and Texas isn't nearly as wide as you purport it to be.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 7:11 pm
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:13 pm to
Hey wise guy who about you show is the difference in draft picks, starting with first rounders to the seventh.

Let's see how close that is.

That doesn't support you claim and proves you horribly wrong so you would never post that.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:30 pm to
quote:

Hey wise guy who about you show is the difference in draft picks, starting with first rounders to the seventh.

Let's see how close that is.

That doesn't support you claim and proves you horribly wrong so you would never post that.


I would never post that because:
1. I'm not going to continue to waste my time discussing this with you.

2. The talent composite is evaluating the current talent of the rosters and I don't have a crystal ball to tell me how many draft picks our current roster will have vs. how many draft picks Texas' current roster will have.

3. Evaluating talent with respect to the NFL Draft is an inexact science (to say the least), so all that data would show is that NFL scouts think those players will be successful in the NFL. A more meaningful analysis would be looking to see how many of those players become All-Pros in the NFL. But again, unless you have a crystal ball, we're not going to know who from the respective rosters winds up being successful in the NFL.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 7:59 pm to
BoB can get better just like anyone else. He has to see his shite is not working as well as others.
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:10 pm to
Calm down dude.

The OL was down last year and its down this year. Im sorry you use recruiting services to tell you how much talent we have on the OL... im using my eyes.

There is no Andre Smith, Warmack, Jonah Williams, Jed Wills, Cam Robinson, Leatherwood, L Collins, B Jones, Fluker, Steen, Shank, Ryan Kelly, Mike Johnson, Evan Neal, Ross Pbach, Kuandjio, Bozeman, etc, etc, etc,

Name one dude on this OL that could hold any these dudes jock. Take your time.
This post was edited on 9/13/22 at 8:14 pm
Posted by Syd
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:10 pm to
Dammit Boz, we all hope so.
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

I'm not going to continue to waste my time discussing this with you.


Why would you when you're wrong?

You are so lost you are using high school rankings to determine player talent after they been developed in college for year(s).

When I point to their draft rankings you can't comprehend that is the finished articles you are watching every Saturday.

Anyways, I think it's hilarious that now we don't have the best talent and now all of a sudden all those draft picks aren't because they were developed at Alabama.

You guys are so twisted you are shitting on your own program just because you can't admit a coordinator is doing a very poor job.
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

BoB can get better just like anyone else. He has to see his shite is not working as well as others.


When is this suppose to happen? He was poor last season as well.

This season he doesn't have Jamison to destroy secondaries so just like the end of that Texas game we have to basically pray and hope on Bryce.
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/22 at 8:14 pm to
We don't need one person on that list to beat that Texas team.

What we need which you can't comprehend is a coordinator which makes a gameplan that attacks our opponents weakness and uses creative ways to creat mismatches to keep them unbalanced.

We don't have that.
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