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re: Alabama student Grant Sikes has his dreams crushed.

Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:58 am to
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
8906 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 9:58 am to
I have no issue with someone like this person making whatever decisions they want that don't affect others. If he decides he is really a girl and wants to get his dick cut off, that's his right.

I do have an issue when someone demands that others not only tolerate their decisions, but accept them. I can tolerate a lot of things that I will not necessarily accept. The two aren't the same. Just like it is this guy's right to decide they are a girl, it's my, and everyone else's, right to say, "No, dude, you're not. You're just playing a very elaborate game of pretend." I don't get to make decisions for him about what gender he wants to be, but he doesn't get to make decisions for me about what gender I think he is. Trying to force himself to be accepted into a sorority is doing exactly that - "I have decided I'm really a girl and I am going to force you to act like I'm a girl, too, even if you don't think I am one." Freedom means making your own choices; it most assuredly does not mean making others abide by the choices you make.
Posted by PorkDawg
Texas
Member since Feb 2019
5074 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:02 am to
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I do have an issue when someone demands that others not only tolerate their decisions, but accept them. I can tolerate a lot of things that I will not necessarily accept. The two aren't the same.


Bingo. And there has definitely been a shift in the last year pushing back on this bullying of ideology too, which is awesome. People are no longer accepting being slandered with ___phobe, bigot, etc. to silence their views.
This post was edited on 8/17/22 at 10:03 am
Posted by gamecockhub
Lexington, SC
Member since Sep 2017
366 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I have no issue with someone like this person making whatever decisions they want that don't affect others. If he decides he is really a girl and wants to get his dick cut off, that's his right.

I do have an issue when someone demands that others not only tolerate their decisions, but accept them. I can tolerate a lot of things that I will not necessarily accept. The two aren't the same. Just like it is this guy's right to decide they are a girl, it's my, and everyone else's, right to say, "No, dude, you're not. You're just playing a very elaborate game of pretend." I don't get to make decisions for him about what gender he wants to be, but he doesn't get to make decisions for me about what gender I think he is. Trying to force himself to be accepted into a sorority is doing exactly that - "I have decided I'm really a girl and I am going to force you to act like I'm a girl, too, even if you don't think I am one." Freedom means making your own choices; it most assuredly does not mean making others abide by the choices you make.


Exactly, as some like to say follow the science. There are only two sexes/genders in biology period except for some simple lifeforms that can reproduce by themselves, everything else is as you said a very elaborate game of pretend and no one else has to play your game. If you want to cut off your arms, fingers hand or other self mutilation or have multiple personalities that is mental illness and these folks should be helped and treated. But with one sex thinking or pretending to be the other society has become too cowardly to stand up and say "No, this isn't right and you need help" Is it possible that someone is the other sex trapped in the wrong body? I'm sure it is, especially when they were born with Ambiguous genitalia and the doctor or parents choose one or the other for them to surgically be but most of this and the made up pronouns like Ezra Miller are mental illness that needs to be treated and the individual helped to either see that they are in error or reaffirm what they believe. Regardless, others don't have to play their game or accept their view.
Posted by ReversePiggie
In non-Arkansas US
Member since Sep 2021
3593 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:28 am to
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Freedom means making your own choices; it most assuredly does not mean making others abide by the choices you make.

Cosign.

What people do in their personal lives and to their own bodies is completely up to them.

Wanna be a vegan. Fine. Don't eat meat, but that doesn't mean if we're at dinner that I can't order a rare steak. Eat your damn salad.
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