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Would we have been better in 06/07 with Dmac as the full time qb?

Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:19 am
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:19 am
I think especially the year with malzahn we could’ve been really tough on offense if we let him play qb full time and had Felix and Peyton play I’m the backfield beside him. If gus could take auburn to the natty with Nick marshal at qb I think we could’ve came close with dmac
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:48 am to
We certainly were better in that NCAA game. I almost always just rotated dick for McFadden and ran options.....
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:10 pm to
If Nutt was fired after 2005 and Arkansas hired Butch Davis with a OC and QB coach that could work with Mustain in both 06 and 07. Arkansas could have won an SEC title or a NC.
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:20 pm to
Nutt would've found a way to frick it up.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 2:56 pm to
It still wouldn't change the results, Nutt would still melt in the big games.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 7:26 pm to
Gus had the offense taken away from him at halftime of the Alabama game because he didn't know what he was doing


He hated/hates to admit Danny Nutt and Mike Markuson taught him a ton of stuff


Gus got on-the-job-training, which helped his career, and killed our 2006 season
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 8:17 pm to
Both Nutt and Malzahn screwed up an SEC title winning season.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 9:12 pm to
Agreed. They’re both to blame for getting into a childish pissing March during the season to see who was more important instead of focusing on winning. Although harry rex is a little deranged on how deep his hatred for malzahn goes. I’m no gus fanboy myself but to say there wasn’t a time when he was at least somewhat capable of an OC is outrageous considering he won a national championship and got to one more as a play caller with zero help from Houston dale.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 10:29 pm to
Nutt should have been fired after the 2005 season and he already worn out his welcome here but the brass dragged the program two more years in the mud for nothing. Wasted talent, wasted seasons.

Malzahn was a forced hire on Nutt because they wanted the Springdale players including Mitch Mustain. They shouldn't have made Nutt do it but have fired him instead months earlier.

Malzahn didn't deserve a college position that quickly when he should have done his time. This caused the rest of the staff to be angry and made fun of him. This also caused Nitt to be fearful for job because he believed Malzahn was after his job.

So Nutt made the Springdale players as uncomfortable as possible. Nutt did it worse to Mustain because any success he had, Malzahn would be praised and Nutt couldn't let that happen.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 10:40 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:02 pm to
Mitch was a bust... Didn't matter who the coach was.

Seems like every 5* we get is here for a reason.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:09 pm to
We will never know if he was a bust or not if he had the right head coach. He might not of played up to his ranking but he would have still been better than what Nutt was pushing on the field. He might not be an elite QB but he would have been better than Casey Dick and Robert Johnson. Nutt and Mazahn destroyed his confidence.
This post was edited on 7/17/22 at 11:17 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:17 pm to
Every time he took the field for USC he was unremarkable
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:32 pm to
He didn't care about football anymore once he couldn't play at Arkansas as Nutt made sure he would never start again. He went to USC to get away from the drama at Arkansas. It was a terrible idea as USC was loaded at QB at that time but he probably just didn't like the game anymore.

He should have never played at Arkansas and should have went to a school that offered better coaching and player development.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 7/17/22 at 11:42 pm to
What’s deranged is this obsession with Gus Malzahn’s fake arse and the obsession with the 2006 season, where the story grows more every passing year, and it’s year 16 now that a portion of our fanbase have those testicles in their mouth

What part of “on the job training” in my post did you not understand? His play calling in 2006 had no likeness to what he finally developed into in 2013. It’s amazing how now the 2006 season story gets more pro-Gus because of something he did in 2010 and 2013.

I guess we’re going to have another year where I need to hold your hand while you wade through posting about football.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:25 am to
quote:

Nutt and Mazahn destroyed his confidence.







poor little crybaby Mitch Mustain and his precious eternal victim status
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:26 am to
quote:

He didn't care about football anymore once he couldn't play at Arkansas as Nutt made sure he would never start again.




that is absolute crap brother


damn
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:31 am to
Nutt never wanted Malzahn at Arkansas as a OC/QB coach because that would push him out as OC and his ego just couldn't allow that to happen. It would have been the same with everyone else. He never had that happen to him in his career but he had to or would be fired.

Once Nutt got enough wins in 06 to get him off officially the hot seat and Casey Dick recovered from his injury, he didn't need Mustain anymore.

Nutt is very childish and if you cross him even just by accident then he will get you back sooner or later. He was never going to start Mustain after the South Carolina game as that meant leaving the responsibility to the offense with Malzahn. Leaving Mustain on the bench meant that Malzahn no longer
Had an advantage and once that was gone, he abandoned his own players and took a job at Tulsa.

Nutt and Malzahn were supposed to be the adults in the room but were both POS.

This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 6:33 am
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 6:34 am to
Then you defend the actions of both Nutt and Malzahn?

That is what it sounds like.
Posted by dchog
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 7:14 am to
It would have been easier for Broyles to fire Nutt after the 2005 season and you wouldn't need a dumb decision of hiring a high school coach to give Nutt more job security.

Most good programs would have fired Nutt but Arkansas went full retard instead. This is why Arkansas football can't have nice things.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 7/18/22 at 9:33 am to
Man I said I’m not a gus fanboy. I’m not from new arkansas and was in elementary when malzahn was hired. Hell I was in high school when he was at auburn. I’m not gargling the dudes nuts I’m just telling it how it is. Nutt and malzah were both childish and ruined what could have been a really good football team. I do think gus was a better offensive mind at the time than HDN but that’s not saying much and that’s NOT me saying he is some offensive guru coaching savant. The dude had a proclivity to call inside zone play after play which would get old REAL quick. Only deal is in the 06 season if you did that with the threat of McFadden running the ball it might have actually worked
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 9:34 am
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