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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:24 am to metafour
Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:24 am to metafour
There are so many factors that go into that though. Bama for instance, they generally don't need 3* guys, so the ones they do bring in are going to be those athletes that have all the tools to be a great player, but are either very raw or not fully developed. Then they get 2-3 years normally to develop, competing against that level of talent.
That makes it look like they are evaluating them better, but in reality they are just able to let those kids develop instead of having to use them when they aren't as ready.
Doesn't mean they don't evaluate them better than anyone, but that is going to skew the results a bit IMO.
That makes it look like they are evaluating them better, but in reality they are just able to let those kids develop instead of having to use them when they aren't as ready.
Doesn't mean they don't evaluate them better than anyone, but that is going to skew the results a bit IMO.
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Posted on 8/11/22 at 11:41 am to GoCrazyAuburn
I don't see how that is a valid retort.
The WR I mentioned, Ladd McConkey, redshirted for one season in 2020 and immediately put up 447 yards and 5 TD's in 2021. He's not a Senior who's been sitting on the bench for 3-4 years and "developing". That was simply an amazing find on a literal no-name recruit by a team that has no problem landing "4-star" WR's.
You can look at this even further. The OL we were trying so hard to flip from Georgia (RyQueze McElderry) is a 3-star. Georgia landed his commitment on November 30th, 2021. Bama "offered" him on November 19th, 2021 (although his offer wasn't committable). We didn't even offer him until January 26th, 2022. So again, both of these schools were WELL ahead of us to the punch for a 3-star OL. They identified him earlier. Sure Brian Harsin is new and blah blah and learning the landscape, but the point is that it's a silly proposition to assume that we can somehow unearth elite "3-star" talent while these other schools can't.
What makes these schools so scary is that not only do they land elite talent, but they're very very good at evaluating that elite talent and ALL talent. Saban doesn't just look at 247.com and pick his recruits based off their rankings, that's why most of their elite recruits end up actually playing like elite recruits.
The WR I mentioned, Ladd McConkey, redshirted for one season in 2020 and immediately put up 447 yards and 5 TD's in 2021. He's not a Senior who's been sitting on the bench for 3-4 years and "developing". That was simply an amazing find on a literal no-name recruit by a team that has no problem landing "4-star" WR's.
You can look at this even further. The OL we were trying so hard to flip from Georgia (RyQueze McElderry) is a 3-star. Georgia landed his commitment on November 30th, 2021. Bama "offered" him on November 19th, 2021 (although his offer wasn't committable). We didn't even offer him until January 26th, 2022. So again, both of these schools were WELL ahead of us to the punch for a 3-star OL. They identified him earlier. Sure Brian Harsin is new and blah blah and learning the landscape, but the point is that it's a silly proposition to assume that we can somehow unearth elite "3-star" talent while these other schools can't.
What makes these schools so scary is that not only do they land elite talent, but they're very very good at evaluating that elite talent and ALL talent. Saban doesn't just look at 247.com and pick his recruits based off their rankings, that's why most of their elite recruits end up actually playing like elite recruits.
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