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re: Worst QB in Auburn recent History (2000s)

Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:20 am to
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:20 am to
Yeah, hard to call plays in the red zone when you are terrified your QB will throw the ball to the other team I’m sure. It’s turned HF into a frightened little boy
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 7:24 am to
This is 2024. We have to score in the air and on the ground. Sean might be your average QB two decades ago but not today. Averaged mediocrity was Sean.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:16 am to
It is an absolutely bizarro world that after the interception Thorne finished 19-23 leading Auburn to a road SEC win and Auburn fans are still beating him to death.


Stop hiding NYC defend your moronic Payton Thorne is slightly better than Ashford post.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9572 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:42 am to
He was great Saturday. He is one more SEC win from moving off the JJ/Robby tier.

Haters Hate
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:47 am to
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He was great Saturday. He is one more SEC win from moving off the JJ/Robby tier.


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Haters Hate

Delusionals do the delusional too. Congrats on proudly sharing a viewpoint with jville, of all people. You know the guy who wanted JJ over Nick Marshall. You're HIM
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9572 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:54 am to
I'm rooting for him to move off the JJ/Ashford tier. I'm tired of losing.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 9:59 am to
Kentucky QBR 76
Missouri QBR 42
Georgia QBR 74
Oklahoma QBR 61
Arkansas QBR 64
Cal QBR 33

He had two bad games.
Ashford had 7 bad games in 2022.

Miss me with your bullshite

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I'm rooting for him to move off the JJ/Ashford tier. I'm tired of losing.
This is typical anti Bo Nix slander. Once we eventually replaced him he took the success with him.




This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 10:06 am
Posted by Johnnycrane
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2022
1163 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:16 am to
Watching Bo Nix win at Oregon and be (serviceable) in the NFL and still get shite on this board about not being good let's me know you simply can't convince some people. Jeremy Johnson had MUCH better team around him so I can never put Thorne in that category. There's no excuse for how Peyton performed early in the season, but that's also on the coaches for even allowing him The power to screw us over. Stidham couldn't even check in and out of plays and he's 5x the player Thorne is.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 10:30 am to
There is no excuse in allowing Payton to keep throwing knowing the sacks issues as if Payton was leading the greatest show on turf while we are three deep at RB. I was on board with turning Freeze's offense loose, making receivers happy, until Freeze started criticizing Thorne for issues that Freeze himself created. Coaches are supposed to push to the strengths, not the weaknesses.

Thorne was 8/8 in the second quarter last game but then the blindside whiffs and Thorne is sacked within two seconds and the half ends. That isnt on Thorne and completely unacceptable.. Freeze had 1:56 on the clock while we are at midfield and he allowed that clock to chew seconds.
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 10:35 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
19203 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:14 am to
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Congrats on proudly sharing a viewpoint with jville, of all people

Better than your below average PT love fest. Which by the way, you were calling for Ashford to take over last year too. You have latched on to Corch and his dumb takes. Sad
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:17 am to
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Better than your below average PT love fest. Which by the way, you were calling for Ashford to take over last year too.

Not last year. If anything I said stick with one and quit swapping. Over Finley I did. I never called Thorne anything but average.


There went your argument. Sad!
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 11:18 am
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9572 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:25 am to
Who is shitting on Bo? I was one of like 4 people defending him when he was running for his life in 20 & 21.

I hope it was a lesson learned in fandom cause I do think our absurd fan base is like 20% of the blame for him leaving
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3891 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:26 am to
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There is no excuse in allowing Payton to keep throwing knowing the sacks issues as if Payton was leading the greatest show on turf while we are three deep at RB. I was on board with turning Freeze's offense loose, making receivers happy, until Freeze started criticizing Thorne for issues that Freeze himself created. Coaches are supposed to push to the strengths, not the weaknesses.

Thorne was 8/8 in the second quarter last game but then the blindside whiffs and Thorne is sacked within two seconds and the half ends. That isnt on Thorne and completely unacceptable.. Freeze had 1:56 on the clock while we are at midfield and he allowed that clock to chew seconds.


Exactly. Thorne is an average QB, who has been put in some really stupid positions by the HC. He does not process information quickly, we have very suspect pass protection, and yet Freeze has spent most of the season trying to force an offense that amplifies both of those flaws. The HC's focus should be on running a script that highlights what the current QB can execute well, not trying to run some hypothetical script that would result in no mistakes if Tom Brady were taking the snaps at QB.

Thorne is 59th nationally in QB Rating. Will Rogers is 64th. Kaidon Salter is 85th and there were multiple people on here proclaiming him as some sort of savior for next season.

Most people haven't even realized that Thorne has thrown only 2 INT's over the past 4 games. Diego Pavia has thrown 3 in the past 3. Garrett Nussmeier just threw 3 INT's in one half of football, and has thrown 7 over the past 4 games and yet there was talk about him being the best QB in the SEC and a Heisman candidate. QB's are going to make mistakes, period. Even ones who are better than Thorne is. Even still, his mistakes have reduced dramatically and yet AU fans still pine over them as if he is still turning the ball over 4 times a game.

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:34 am to
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I was one of like 4 people defending him when he was running for his life in 20 & 21.

Well if you are blaming Thorne for losses you didn't learn anything and no different. Feel free to remember Georgia State, Georgia, Penn State, and the A&M games if you think there is something so much more different about the two.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3891 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:37 am to
Jville's Thorne vs. Ashford take that he still refuses to throw in the towel on is absolutely wild. It's a brainrot-level football take.

Ashford has been at 3 different schools and has competed with some absolute dogshit QB's at each of them, and he hasn't been able to earn a starting spot over any of them. The guy isn't up to par with ANY actual starting QB in a P5 conference.

That's how that works. If you are a Senior and you have spent literally your entire career as 2nd/3rd string at 3 different schools, you are not "better" than ANY P5 starting QB. And let me remind everyone: he was 3rd string at Oregon, and would have been 3rd string here as well had Calzada not hurt himself in that freak offseason injury. Ashford wouldn't have been played in 2022 had Calzada been healthy.
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 11:40 am
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9572 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:39 am to
I'm just blaming him for a couple losses. We've had plenty of other problems in the last couple of years for sure.

But PT couldn't sniff Bo's jockstrap if you have eyes.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:41 am to
Thorne doesnt process quickly and he also panics once something goes wrong. Insert our freshman receivers acting like freshmen. Two biggest gaffes constantly getting exposed. So putting Thorne in empties, or putting out double move routes asking him to hold onto the ball isnt going to work.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 11:46 am to
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But PT couldn't sniff Bo's jockstrap if you have eyes.

I'm not saying Throne is going pro. Bo always had more escapabilility and the tendency to throw the ball away in danger. I'm saying people are putting too much of this shitty season on Thorne when he was broadcasted as average and has played that way 60QBR plus most of the year.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
9572 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 12:05 pm to
I probably agree? But I do think PT has that unquantifiable loser factor that doesn’t help him or the team
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
7802 posts
Posted on 10/31/24 at 12:07 pm to
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Yeah, hard to call plays in the red zone when you are terrified your QB will throw the ball to the other team I’m sure. It’s turned HF into a frightened little boy


Right, … but put yourself in CHFs shoes …. better to turn it over with a fumble, than to risk a pick six throwing into coverage in the red zone ….

Either way you risk turnover, but the risk for defensive points is less when handing it off, eh?
This post was edited on 10/31/24 at 12:18 pm
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