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Posted on 7/25/22 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 7/25/22 at 10:53 pm
Auburn@Alabama = $561
Oregon vs. Georgia = $559
Auburn@Georgia = $455
Texas A&M@Alabama = $410
Georgia vs. Florida = $386
Penn State@Auburn = $331
Alabama@LSU = $299
Tennessee@Georgia = $290
Auburn in 3 of the top 8. Bama with 3. UGA with 4.
And people ask why Auburn can and should go get elite coaches whenever there is an opening. Historically Auburn is Top 15. Past 40 years Auburn is top 10. Act like it.
Oregon vs. Georgia = $559
Auburn@Georgia = $455
Texas A&M@Alabama = $410
Georgia vs. Florida = $386
Penn State@Auburn = $331
Alabama@LSU = $299
Tennessee@Georgia = $290
Auburn in 3 of the top 8. Bama with 3. UGA with 4.
And people ask why Auburn can and should go get elite coaches whenever there is an opening. Historically Auburn is Top 15. Past 40 years Auburn is top 10. Act like it.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:11 am to CorchJay
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And people ask why Auburn can and should go get elite coaches whenever there is an opening. Historically Auburn is Top 15. Past 40 years Auburn is top 10. Act like it.
All this right here.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:38 am to CorchJay
No one is paying that much to watch bama crush Auburn
Especially at this stage in the year
Especially at this stage in the year
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:52 am to HailToTheChiz
quote:game’s in Brian-Dennehy Stadium this year, pretty sure Bama fans will pay those prices to see their Glorious Victory
No one is paying that much to watch bama crush Auburn
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:59 am to CorchJay
quote:No, people ask who those elite coaches are who are worth $8-10 million a year guaranteed.
And people ask why Auburn can and should go get elite coaches whenever there is an opening.
Suppose we had let Gustav walk in 2017 and went out and got the best HC available. Here’s the list of the top HC hires that year.
Which of those do you consider “elite”?
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:47 am to CorchJay
These prices will all fall significantly once we get closer to kickoff for each.
And I’d dare say that if they don’t, we’ll see record lows in attendance across the conference this year.
And I’d dare say that if they don’t, we’ll see record lows in attendance across the conference this year.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:52 am to FearlessFreep
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got the best HC available.
What do you consider available? Was Cristobal available when he bolted for Miami? Was Brian Kelley available last year when he left for LSU?
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:32 am to wareaglepete
quote:Pretty sure we went hard after Cristobal in 2020, but he turned us down.
What do you consider available? Was Cristobal available when he bolted for Miami? Was Brian Kelley available last year when he left for LSU?
Kelley will cost LSU $100 million over 10 years, with 90% of that guaranteed. You think AU should have offered him that much or more in 2020?
Posted on 7/26/22 at 9:56 am to wareaglepete
Unpopular take but it's the facts as I see them.
We aren't attracting some Urban type name who is pretty much an auto success (at least on the field).
We aren't going to compete with Saban or Kirby with mediocre name (Harsin, Napier, Pittman) no matter how decent of a football coach they may be.
Got to hire a headline maker/marketer like Lane Kiffin or even Coach Prime and hope they hire good assistants and let them coach. This is the path forward for Auburn. Once they, hopefully, re-establish us as a program worth following and increase the talent pool we can return to more normal hires when the time comes. Right now though this program is dead and needs a serious overhaul to turn things around.
We aren't attracting some Urban type name who is pretty much an auto success (at least on the field).
We aren't going to compete with Saban or Kirby with mediocre name (Harsin, Napier, Pittman) no matter how decent of a football coach they may be.
Got to hire a headline maker/marketer like Lane Kiffin or even Coach Prime and hope they hire good assistants and let them coach. This is the path forward for Auburn. Once they, hopefully, re-establish us as a program worth following and increase the talent pool we can return to more normal hires when the time comes. Right now though this program is dead and needs a serious overhaul to turn things around.
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 10:12 am to RandySavage
In retrospect we probably should have let Gustav go to Arky unchallenged in 2017 and picked up Kiffin on the cheap from FAU. It would have been an outrageous move and absolutely hated by more than half of our fanbase, but we’d be in pretty good shape by now.
But we had an idiot for a Pres and a lameduck AD, so it wouldn’t have even been considered. Knowing how Jimmy Sexton basically negotiated Gustav’s deal, I can only assume that letting him go to Arky would have resulted in us hiring Taggart or Chadwick, with similar results.
As for Coach Prime, I hardly think a guy with 20 games experience in the SWAC is the answer, no matter how many Aflac commercials he’s appeared in.
Ironically, your judgement that the program is dead is in direct conflict with the OP.
But we had an idiot for a Pres and a lameduck AD, so it wouldn’t have even been considered. Knowing how Jimmy Sexton basically negotiated Gustav’s deal, I can only assume that letting him go to Arky would have resulted in us hiring Taggart or Chadwick, with similar results.
As for Coach Prime, I hardly think a guy with 20 games experience in the SWAC is the answer, no matter how many Aflac commercials he’s appeared in.
Ironically, your judgement that the program is dead is in direct conflict with the OP.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 12:57 pm to CorchJay
Harsin is going to be coveted by NFL teams after this year.
jang, please don't post a response.
jang, please don't post a response.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 1:11 pm to alpinetiger
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jang, please don't post a response.
Denied.
He had NFL coach mannerisms on the sidelines last year. He doesn’t do the hands in circles like Gus. He screams at refs a lot less than Saban. He just seems to let things unfold. He already recruits like he’s in the NFL. I really don’t have a problem with this post but it’s silly to think the NFL would want his production.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 1:12 pm to RandySavage
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Got to hire a headline maker/marketer like Lane Kiffin or even Coach Prime and hope they hire good assistants and let them coach
I’ve been beating this drum for months now. Welcome.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 1:15 pm to RandySavage
No coach wants to go somewhere that will pay them $100+ million just because of some rabid fans, just not going to happen money means nothing to coaches it's all about what the fans think.
I'm just trying to see how ridiculous that thought process sounds.
I'm just trying to see how ridiculous that thought process sounds.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 1:28 pm to jangalang
quote:This is why I read this board.
Denied.
He had NFL coach mannerisms on the sidelines last year. He doesn’t do the hands in circles like Gus. He screams at refs a lot less than Saban. He just seems to let things unfold. He already recruits like he’s in the NFL. I really don’t have a problem with this post but it’s silly to think the NFL would want his production.
Harsin doesn't drink 27 cups of coffee a day, or chew gum. Or recycle plays from the Wing-T from 1927. He gets up early and lifts to get his swole on. Demands his players do the same. Then he eviscerates film study and calls people around him pussies for not pulling more weight. You want to play football at AU? frick off. Prove it. I like the cut of his jib. It's going to be a great season.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 1:43 pm to alpinetiger
Pass the koolaid, brAUther
Posted on 7/26/22 at 2:21 pm to CorchJay
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Historically Auburn is Top 15. Past 40 years Auburn is top 10
First, define elite?
Second, What elite coaches has Auburn hired historically?
Dye might be the only one that had elite written all over him, but we haven't gotten anyone of his caliber since. Chiz was a talented X's and O's and understood getting the best players too, but sucked at the other half.
Terry Bowden (couldn't recruit)? Tommy(Didn't care to recruit consistently high stars, but great developer and hit Bama at the right time)? Gus, showed promise but went away from what made him successful, Was it because his offense was easy to defend)?
We can say to act like it, but the history of hiring elite coaches are not prevalent. Now you add in the hiring and firing over the last 40 years and especially since jetgate, and no elite coach is coming to Auburn without a huge guarantee of money offered and control.
Now with history of being top 15 historically we should have high expectations of the program to perform, but we are #15 because we don't stay at a high level year in year out over a decade or two. We plug along and then pull out one to two good years or big wins, and then rinse repeat.
Why haven't we elevated our program to the levels of Bama, OSU, OK, Texas, Mich, etc?
Aranda is shaping up to be a hell of a Head football coach, do we have the ability to get him? We couldn't get Veranda (a top assistant coach), Cristobal (I think he's a talented coach), Smart (under Saban the longest and great recruiter), etc. I believe it's because all the important facets of our school don't align based on comments candidates have made. Some can call that bullshite, but when you keep seeing proof and more than one top candidate has said so then you have to start seeing that as the reason.
You see what has just taken place this past season and the power struggle between ADAG and the PTB, and you know it's true.
Not attacking your line of thinking just adding my opinion and perspective. I want it to be true but something is holding our program back, or we just will always be a top 15 (#15) school or less, which hasn't been horrible at all, very frustrating of course, but I expect we all have higher expectations.
None of what I just said will change my prediction of
15-0 Ship!
Because that is me acting like it.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 2:57 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
We’ve hired exactly two HCs away from P5-caliber programs in our entire 130-year history: Tuberville and Chiz, who came from the powerhouses of Ole Miss and Iowa State.
Our other HCs were either first-timers like Donahue and Jordan, or came to us from such hotbeds of major college football as Wyoming, Rice, Samford, Canisius, Middlebury, Oberlin, and Creighton.
Harsin has a better resume than any HC we’ve ever hired. He’s the very first HC who came to Auburn with a major bowl victory already under his belt.
Our other HCs were either first-timers like Donahue and Jordan, or came to us from such hotbeds of major college football as Wyoming, Rice, Samford, Canisius, Middlebury, Oberlin, and Creighton.
Harsin has a better resume than any HC we’ve ever hired. He’s the very first HC who came to Auburn with a major bowl victory already under his belt.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 3:10 pm to FearlessFreep
quote:Its a trope that is well worn. No one hires established head coaches, with a few exceptions. Alabama did with Saban. Georgia didn't with Smart, etc...
We’ve hired exactly two HCs away from P5-caliber programs in our entire 130-year history: Tuberville and Chiz, who came from the powerhouses of Ole Miss and Iowa State.
Our other HCs were either first-timers like Donahue and Jordan, or came to us from such hotbeds of major college football as Wyoming, Rice, Samford, Canisius, Middlebury, Oberlin, and Creighton.
Harsin has a better resume than any HC we’ve ever hired. He’s the very first HC who came to Auburn with a major bowl victory already under his belt.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:56 pm to TemperdTiger
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No coach wants to go somewhere that will pay them $100+ million just because of some rabid fans, just not going to happen money means nothing to coaches it's all about what the fans think.
Are we offering a coach $100m?
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I'm just trying to see how ridiculous that thought process sounds.
I mean if I just make up magical scenarios then sure we can hire anybody, but realistically it isn't going to happen.
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