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re: Those of you who were around..

Posted on 10/18/22 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 6:38 pm to
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Again, don't know what you're talking about.

You literally said “it’s just a sport.”
Posted by MrLahey
The Salty Ham
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 6:40 pm to
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You literally said “it’s just a sport.”


Nah, I didn't.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 6:51 pm to
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I will never understand why people think "money" changes anything. You can not buy your way into being a good coach or a good program. It will either happen or not. Money is something used to hang on to a good thing once you have it.


If I pay someone $15 an hour I have expectations in line with the job.

If a man is making millions, the expectations are higher.
It is what it is.

I’ve made as little as $1.75 per hour, and I’ve made high salaries.
As my income went up, the people paying me had higher expectations.

We are human. If a guy is getting paid millions, people expect results.

It is what it is.
Posted by MrLahey
The Salty Ham
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 6:56 pm to
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I’ve made as little as $1.75 per hour


Took ya a while to afford that Maker's Mark, huh?

All jokes aside - you'd be shocked what coaches have 7 figure salaries.

$50,000 was a ton of money in 1978
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 7:29 pm to
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If a man is making millions, the expectations are higher.
It is what it is.


So we should just hire a coach, pay him 15 mil a year and "expect" a championship.


That seems easy. Why dont we just do that? Hell, lets just raise Harsins pay to 15 mil and surely he will get us one for that kind of money. He can just work harder to get it

Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:01 pm to
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So we should just hire a coach, pay him 15 mil a year and "expect" a championship.


We should expect excellence.

A championship requires some luck, but recruiting must improve.

Going for a fake punt with a TE run is low percentage coaching.
We are a mistake riddled team.

Auburn in 1981 under Dye was showing improvement.

Auburn under Harsin has not showed improvement.

It is a results driven world in college football.
We should expect better than we have gotten the last few years.

It is unrealistic to expect 15-0 every year, but we should at minimum be a competitive team. Currently, we are not competing on the field, we are not competing in recruiting, and we are not a highly disciplined team that does not make a lot of mistakes.

3-4 is not the main issue. The issue is we are not even close to competing with Ole Miss, Penn State, and Georgia. I don’t think it is asking to much for us to execute better, to look more prepared, and to not turn the ball over so much.

What are your expectations of Auburn’s football program?

Mine are to be competive in the SEC. We are not even close.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:06 pm to
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So we should just hire a coach, pay him 15 mil a year and "expect" a championship


Should people that pay me have expectations?

For whatever reason, they do.
Sometimes I disappoint them, sometimes I exceed their expectations.
In either case, I don’t get a buyout.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34510 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:08 pm to
Lanier is right. The more we paid Gus the less he won.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69930 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:11 pm to
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What are your expectations of Auburn’s football program?



I dont have any real expectations. It is impossible to have real expectations on something that I have zero control over. I have hopes that Auburn will be SEC champs at some point and win another championship before I die.

quote:

Mine are to be competive in the SEC


What exactly does that mean?
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69930 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:15 pm to
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Should people that pay me have expectations?



Sure but there is a cap to what you can do at any job. Circumstances, competition and abilities are going to adjust what is possible. With your job, mine or a football coach.

My point is, just because you pay more for something, that will not make it the best. It is just reality. Expectations with a football coach should not be measured by how much you pay them. It sounds like a cut and dry thing but unfortunately, it is not

Whether it should be or not is a different topic





Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
20488 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:17 pm to
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My point is, just because you pay more for something, that will not make it the best


Agree.

The problem for me is I only get paid for results.

These coaches get buyouts.
I wish I had a golden parachute.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69930 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:23 pm to
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Agree.

The problem for me is I only get paid for results.

These coaches get buyouts.
I wish I had a golden parachute.




We all do. Though some jobs and pay scale account for performance, most do not. Like a football coach.

These days, there are more good job openings than there are good coaches each year so they can basically write their own contract. Or their agents can.

Just imagine that Texas AM gave Jimbo Fisher basically 100 million dollars to coach for them with a ton of that guaranteed. 100 million dollars to coach a college football team


100 million














100 MILLION

This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Pauldingtiger
Alabama
Member since Jan 2019
962 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:24 pm to
Before TV and really the whole championship craze teams played to just beat other schools and have bragging rights. That’s how the whole rivalry thing began. Beat Bama!, Wreck Tech!, Beat the Vols. Stomp the Gators!

We worried about beating the upcoming team on your schedule and weren’t worried about SEC championships and MNC. Hell you just wanted to go to a good bowl game.

You were lucky if you had one or two games a season on TV. As stated before coaches didn’t make millions and players didn’t practice or work out anywhere near what they do today. They were more student athletes rather than the semi pro players they are today.

Schools now want championships to gain more money and to entice more kids to enroll at their school. Easy access to Federal loans enables this and Universities offer more worthless degrees to get more money from students.

The Universities have turned in to businesses and diploma mills to keep the monster going to pay for their salaries. Athletics is just a part of it. There tax free status allows them to waste millions each year. And the false lore that a diploma is the golden ticket keeps easy federal loan money coming in.
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
8346 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:32 pm to
I was around but too young to really have a feel for what it was like. One thing i do remember is Alabama Auburn day at school there weren't too many of us around. Out of about 80 people in my elementary school class there were a grand total of 4 Auburn fans. I guess we bonded over it because I'm still friends with all of them.

The last few years of Bowden and Tubs first were pretty rough. Probably the closest i can remember to now
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 8:38 pm
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12112 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:59 pm to
You sound super low T
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
12112 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 8:59 pm to
I love the auburn fans that blame/think the fans are the reason the football team sucks lol
Posted by AU_251
Your dads room
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:01 pm to
I’m glad you have changed from Oregon to tenn. I might do the same, the vols now hold a special place in my heart after gutting bama Saturday
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50752 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 5:56 am to
Gameday is In Oregon this week.

Just remember AUCE said Bo would be 4th string on our roster.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 5:57 am
Posted by Luke
1113 Chartres Street, NOLA
Member since Nov 2004
14139 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 7:38 am to
Fans weren’t charged $100+ per ticket, $3000+ donations to TUF, high fees for RV lot permits, fees to tailgate within 2 miles of campus, and $8 a piece concessions… athletes were content with a scholarship and not demanding endorsement packages to sign LOI…. But war Eagle anyways right? We all know the overpaid Peeps in the AD failing in their positions want you to keep paying out the Yang for a Mazda at a Mercedes Benz price point to cover their salaries.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50752 posts
Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:04 am to
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"Auburn is a program that is expected to compete at the very highest level each and every year," ESPN's Seth Greenberg said Tuesday.


Bruce Pearl changed our culture. Harsin has people demanding that we go the other way. That much is clear.
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