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re: This is a very very bad team

Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:18 pm to
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Ashford has an amazing skillset for that trick play. Ashford might even have a great skillset at either of RB and WR

Agreed.

If we get a good QB and Ashford sticks around, he could be a Kodi Burns clone. Maybe better, as he appears to have a bit more speed and shiftiness.
He has looked like that would be a great role for him at slot receiver, a threat to do anything with the ball.
He is not an SEC caliber QB at this point any more than KB was. But he is a good athlete and there is a place for him to make huge contributions within a good team. I will go as far as to say that if we make a run in the next couple of years he will be a big part of it, but not at the QB spot. (Assuming he doesn't transfer)
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 9:51 pm to
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He is not an SEC caliber QB at this point any more than KB was.


Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 10/23/23 at 10:29 pm to
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Ashford might even have a great skillset at either of RB and WR



Safety. Dude fumbles for no reason at all. Just randomly drops the ball. Seen it for 2 years now. No reason to put the ball in his hands. If he wants to make money playing football flip to free safety and learn to lock down TEs. He'd make a fortune.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 12:02 am to
Drives where Payton Thorne played a majority of the snaps.

6 drives for 208 yards.

Drives where Robby Ashford played a majority of snaps.

7 drives for 65 yards.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:28 am to
And how many of those drives were killed by bringing Throne in on 3rd down?
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:46 am to
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. If he wants to make money playing football flip to free safety and learn to lock down TEs. He'd make a fortune.
Said this more than once...

The kid is playing on the wrong side of the ball. If he wants to go pro defense is his route.
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 7:58 am
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:08 am to
As long as he continues to be the best QB on the roster, he needs to stay right where he is.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21091 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:22 am to
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As long as he continues to be the best QB on the roster, he needs to stay right where he is.


But he isn’t and it’s not even close
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:25 am to
Who do you think is? Throne?
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21091 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:33 am to
Yes Thorne is currently the best QB on the roster and it’s not even remotely close. That’s not saying much. But it is reality
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21091 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:43 am to
P Thorne

80-130 61.5% 845 yards 6.5 avg 5TD 5 INT

Rushes 61- 259

R Ashford
14-26 53.8% 145 yards 5.3 avg 2TD 1 INT

Rushes
40-180
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20513 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:58 am to
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Yes Thorne is currently the best QB on the roster and it’s not even remotely close. That’s not saying much. But it is reality




Maybe in your delusional reality. The offense with Ashford >>> Throne
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:07 am to
jville you do understand ashford got the start but Hugh only let him throw 4 times.

Thats a bad offense.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50724 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:14 am to
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As long as he continues to be the best QB on the roster, he needs to stay right where he is.

You cannot say he is the best QB on our roster when Thorne has thrown for 6,000 yards.

Ashford is just better at the fire drill. If Ashford cared about his future he would switch positions. He is doing himself no favors right now.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20513 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:22 am to
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You cannot say he is the best QB on our roster when Thorne has thrown for 6,000 yards.


Who has thrown for more yards at Auburn? Do you think Throne can match in 12 games what Ashford did in 9 games? He has a long way to go.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21091 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:31 am to
Just the opposite from what you are saying…


Drives where Payton Thorne played a majority of the snaps.

6 drives for 208 yards.

Drives where Robby Ashford played a majority of snaps.

7 drives for 65 yards.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
21091 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:35 am to
Either argument for what they have done before makes no difference. You have clear evidence this season on the same team with the same players.

I still think Thorne gives us the best chance to win games. And for Robby’s sake he should consider moving to defense if he wants to play professionally. If I were betting on myself I would move to defense and see if I could make the league because he isn’t as a QB. I don’t think Thorne makes the league either as a QB but he can’t play another position
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
20513 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:05 am to
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And for Robby’s sake he should consider moving to defense if he wants to play professionally.


He can do that if he chooses after he leaves Auburn, like Marshall did. Right now, the offense scores points with Ashford having full drives. When they pull him or Throne goes in, the offense stalls out. Ashford needs to start and have Montgomery open up the offense for him.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:52 am to
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, he needs to stay right where he is.
Cou;d be a win-win.

If he's on D and drops the ball that's not bad and generally a pretty good thing. While him holding onto the ball would be a cause for celebration

. . . instead of something expected.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50724 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 2:53 pm to
We were talking about the double pass earlier.


I present woeful Gus's double pass during a 2 point conversion that couldve tied the game with 1:15 left in the fourth.

LINK





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